NRP - csa1 to csa2

kelloggs36

I would never deny any of my children the opportunity of going to university if that is what they want to do - somehow we will manage and that is the point, if you want to you will. The 'child' can work and live on their loan but may or may not get help from either parent, but the option is there for them to apply to the courts to make the parents pay.

Blob

Sou

No probs

However the one thing that is going to get me on my soap box every time is when children are refered too as "Her children", this hits the start button every time! Jus the way it is, goes back to my divorce and the fact that my ex's solicitor kept on telling me that the children were her's.

Result is he nolonger works in this area, his firm found the interest show in his carear by the Law Soc too much to handle. The Judge also put him right on this point on many occasions.

Both my kids are now on the point of telling their mother were to get off and comming to live with me, something that my ex was warned may well happen by the Judge that heard the case of contact.

kelloggs36

jpmummy wrote: »

QUOTE=kelloggs36;20773379]If you told them that she supplied drugs then you may find that to be a postive answer as in the eyes of the law the 18 year old is indeed allowed to drink alcohol. Have you actually reported the drug abuse? From your posts it would appear not as you don't believe that they will take you seriously - perhaps you should try before making such comments.

I have done in the past, reported lots of dodgy goings on, It is always the same on this forum the PWC and Child/Adult are the people who get the positive comments and thumbs up for screwing the NRP and the system, you clearly haven't read many threads then as this is not the case. I have seriously had enough with CSA/PWC/Adult maintaining. There is little point in going over it all again as it just isn't worth it because you have no choice because if the child is in school between 18 and 19 you have no choice as it is the law - agree or disagree, you won't win. I just feel that the "system" is a p take all geared for punishing NRP for making a life. It is difficult in some cases of course it is, but you will find that there are also many PWCs being screwed by the system.In my honest oppinion, if people want to further their education (joke in this case) they should fund it themselves or get a job, and yes I am a parent but would certainly never punish anyone just for the sake of it to keep on pulling the cash in as this woman has. If the child wishes to go to university CSA will stop anyway so I don't understand what you are arguing here - it will have to be the CHILD who themselves applies to the court to get a parent forced to pay - and it is extremely rare for this to happen so I wouldn't worry about this happening.

"The CSA isn't the only time where an 18 year old is still deemed to be a child, as, if a 'child' goes to university, who is deemed liable to support them whilst they are there? NO, not the NRP but the PWC and the PWC partner - now this is wrong as the partner is not a parent and should not be deemed liable for them but in the eyes of the law they are, so we have to live with these anomylies and get on with it. "

In my opinion if you can't afford for them to go to Uni, then there is an answer, NO WE CAN'T AFFORD IT, personally I could not deny my child the opportunity to go to university if they want to - in fact my oldest is there in year 2 now. We don't give her cash but help her out in other ways like sending Asda to her home with food when she is skint but it isn't very often as we too have other children that we need to look after. She is encouraged to get herself a job and apply to the grants etc that she could get. If there was no other way, we would have to make other sacrifices so that she could go. ets look for another route to get where you want to go. I did, my parents couldnt afford for me to go and I was told so, I went another route to qualify which was getting a job and going to college and working very hard to get where I am now. There is too much namby pambying going on in todays world in my view. I know this won't go down well in todays "PC" route but it is a fact of life.[/QUOTE]
I don't understand your comment of university being namby pamby as it is very difficult - I have just qualified last Summer from a 3 year degree course - I agree however that some courses have been made degree courses unnecessarily and university should be for those who need it to go on to their chosen profession which they could not do any other way. I had no choice but to go to university as I had no A levels or degree in any other subject so I could not follow any alternative routes into teaching - I had to do an Access course at my local college and then a 3 year teacher training degree so sometimes there is no option other than to give up your dreams, and unless there is a choice of complete destitution or giving up, then I would never encourage anybody to give up. The other route may be to postpone the university, but never give up the dream of going. I had to wait for 18 years before I could go, so believe me I know about living in poverty and not being able to do what I wanted to do.

tamsin1982

73bugz wrote: »

Well i DO NOT WANT to quit my job, but i am being forced into doing so. I've worked hard since leaving school and have never been out of work before. However, when the system is so corrupt that your constantly fighting a losing battle then you have to make decisions. I have had enough - its time for me to play the system.

I could have gone the benefits route right from the start and "became invisible" to the CSA, never to be tracked down and i wouldn't have paid a penny like a some of the blokes who i have heard about. But no, i done the right thing and it got me nowhere.

THIS IS ABOUT MY CHILDREN i have supported them for all of their lives, i have never missed a payment for them or have i not had them for the two nights a week to stay over. I have to make a 60 mile round journey every time i see them, thats 8 times a week and 480 miles. This doesn't get taken into account because i have a company car, by the way, which i am taxed like mad on.

To be perfectly honest you Tasmin, i don't want my grubby little ex to get any more of my money than i should LEGALLY be paying. I'm fed up of contributing to her mortgage for her four bedroom detatached house and for her multiple holidays abroad each year with her partner. When i can't even afford to pay my rent each month. She knows how much i would be paying on the new system and she is worried that the drop in money would no longer pay for her spa days each month.

One last thing, i won't be bored at home, i'll be visiting the doctors quite often to plead that i have a bad back and see if i can claim DLA or some other benefit which i might be entitled to as well. Then the rest of the time i will be working cash in hand for a few hours a day saving up for my many holidays abroad on the tax payers expense.

Tasmin, do you have to be so rude in your posts?

I apologise if I came across as being rude, you may have read my tone wrong!?
im not trying to have a go but I believe there are more options available to you than making yourself jobless.
you say you have to do 480 miles a month in a company car to see your children, if you leave your job you lose the car and the benefit money you would receive would not cover the petrol as well as your day to day living costs?

please think this through properly, every choice you make affects your children. try talking to your ex - ask her to meet you half way ie the diff between csa1 & csa2?
do you have debts that if you were payin back less each month would leave you with more money to live on? people will help you but they cant if you just give up

Blob

I understand where he is comming from and believe me ex's wont work with ex's as a rule. I know people will say that is not true, in the event that is an amicable split, then yes they can but by and large this wont happen.