Need more advice re: trading in. Used car isn't great.

andy111

aliasojo, you shold not even consider a £6k relatively new vehicle without service history; you can be sure it will come back to bite you.
As you rightly say, you are a captive audience being so remote and the prices reflect that fact.
Down here in the south an 06 could be bought for the same money easily.
One option might be to use a professional car buyer, who I would imagine could source an 05 down here and deliver for c.£5.5k.
The drawback of course is using a third party and of course not seeing the car until arrival.
Auctioncarbuyer.co.uk have a good writeup on the forums of Honestjohn and might be worth investigating and reading.
Alternatively Arnold Clark Glasgow have an 04 Ghiax with 30k at £4900 - although I realise that might still be a few hundred miles!
Although the facelift model fell in the middle of the 04 reg I believe, not sure if pre or post.
However desperate you become don't buy without substantiated provenance.

aliasojo

Thanks andy. We've called the dealer today and told him we wont be buying the car.

I think we were probably clutching at straws even considering it and we need to be more sensible.

Will check out the site you mentioned.

cyclonebri1

Don't walk away




***kin run away

Whats the phrase? if it smells like a rat, eats the cheese and craps on the table, then chances are it is a rat.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

harveybobbles

kiddy_guy wrote: »

£6500 for an 05 Ford ?

I paid 5k for a 55 Seat Toledo with same miles.

Ford's are not only 10 a penny, but they're a middle of the road type of marque. For 6.5k get a VW or better.

And you bought a Toledo cos you couldn't afford an Audi...

harveybobbles

kiddy_guy wrote: »

2005 55 Reg FORD MONDEO 1999 cc 2.0 Ghia X 4dr (trade)- Chertsey - £5272 with 46k on the clock

2005 05 Reg FORD Mondeo 2.0 Ghia X (trade)Estate - 21k miles, £6500

2006 56 Reg FORD Mondeo 2.0 Ghia X (trade) - 22k on the clock, £7k (sure you could haggle that down). It's got less miles and it's newer than the one you've been offered.

I've also just checked what you could get based on Saloons upto £7k, with less than 40k on the clock, upto 3 years old.

2006 55 Reg SAAB 9-5 2.3T Linear - 27000 miles - £5k. - I have to be honest - I was astounded by this price - shows the state of the market when you can get a Saab for less money than a Mondeo.
2006 06 Reg PEUGEOT 407 2.0 SE (trade) - 21000 miles - £5.4k
2006 06 Reg TOYOTA AVENSIS 1.8 VVT-i T3-X 4dr- 37k miles - £5.5k
2006 06 Reg SUBARU Legacy 2.0 R (trade)- 29k miles - £5.5k
2006 VOLVO S60 2.0 T S 4dr Saloon - 29k miles - £6500 (miles better car!)

For £6500 you could get yourself a whole array of cars. Good luck.:T

They look like petrol Mondingo's.

As for a Saab for less than Mondeo money - it's only a rebadged Vauxhall Omega...

kiddy_guy

No, I bought a Toledo because I couldn't afford a decent mileage Volvo V50. Audi's are good cars by all means but it wasn't what I required. Seat's have a pretty decent image, primarily thanks to the sportiness of the Leon and due the Altea now being the choice of school mums. I think for £5k, finding a car with 45k on the clock and under three years old, Toledo's lose a lot of value due to not being a full people carrier, but not having the cuteness of the Altea. Why waste money in this climate when you can get VW mechanics for Kia prices? By the time I bought it, it had lost over 13k, and I could sell it today, a year after I purchased it, for only £300 less than I paid, based on average values currently. I've taken the depreciation on my car - and whilst it will lose some more, this will be down to the miles I put on it.

As regards the Mondeo, I must have missed the OP saying the car was a diesel?

And the Saab - well bit like saying that a Skoda is an Audi because they are made by the same bunch with similar parts. Factually correct, but everyone would rather have an Audi. But can you get a Vauxhall for that price with that spec - again who wouldn't take the Saab over the Vauxhall?

aliasojo

Just one small thing I'd like to add here....we were going to buy Ford because of the ease and cheapness of replacement parts.

We have driven Renaults for years and have had enough of being held to ransom over repairs. Especially with the more 'specialised' repairs (ecu v's an exhaust for instance). We struggled to even find a garage other than a Renault dealership that even had the correct diagnostic program. One garage who said he could deal with the car ended up having to take it to the Renault garage for their diagnostic stuff. :rolleyes:

This time round the cost of parts is high on our 'list of concerns'. With that in mind, I think maybe Vauxhall would win over the Saab for us in this instance.

As for the mondeo...it was a diesel we were looking at but I'm wondering how harveybobbles knew that was relevent as I didn't mention in in my post? Please tell me you don't know us? :rotfl:I'll never get the car traded in now I've said on here it doesn't work, lol.

aliasojo

Bambi234 wrote: »

1. Now that you now this can it be used as a bargining tool to get the price even lower or the trade-in on yours higher. In this financial climate they should be wanting sales.

One other thing I'd like to mention is that we have not been as affected up here as areas down south. Our house prices certainly dropped a bit but started rising again and there's roughly only around £10k difference in price now on a 4 bedroom house compared to asking price a year ago. (I live in hope that we can move one day so I keep an eye on 4 beds :rolleyes:). Our neighbour has just sold for only £5k less than it was valued at a year ago.

People need to drive up here, we obviously do have public transport but because there is such a distance between the small towns, a 25 minute car journey can take over an hour by bus. There are no buses running at all when my OH has to leave for work.

Garages know they can charge more than their counterparts further down in the country and still get sales. Judging by the speed in which cars disappear off their forecourts, they have no problems shifting them.

I think it would be completely different if we were sat in Glasgow for instance, garages there are plentiful and their prices are set accordingly.

OH spent the day yesterday with no firm wish list in his mind and trawled round the garages again. What they advertise in the papers and online as having....they don't. :rolleyes: I have no idea how they get away with that. Anyway, if we were spending £8k-£9k, the choice is plentiful. It's not at £5k -£6k.

Anyway, thanks again everyone for your advice.

andy111

Unless you have a very good reason for buying an out of warranty diesel Mondeo - which you are about to -don't.
The infamous dual mass flywheel and clutch replacement will cost £700- sometimes taking the the starter with it, crankshaft and camshaft sensor £200 and then the small matter of injector faults at £200 each plus of course the turbo and well documented fuel pumps.
The last thing you need is glowplug warning light and the car reverting to limp home mode when you live in the sticks. A few trips to Ford for their attempts to use their own diagnostics, and charging you for not fixing the fault will soon wear a bit thin. Modern day common rail diesels have become very advanced and complicated - absolutely fine for company car owners etc in their first three years but a nightmare for end users.
In general the petrol version is simpler and much cheaper to repair - and to buy in the first place. The savings you may make on fuel will be wiped out many times over with just one of the above faults. Again have a look on Google for the well documented above faults.

aliasojo

No, we're not now, lol.

The reason for the diesel was because our yearly mileage is between 16 and 20 thousand, (usually 18/19). So we thought more economical?