Dad who pays csa but doent get to see his child

kelloggs36

I think it may mean if there is evidence that the PWC has deliberately witheld contact, not if the NRP doesn't want to have contact.

storminbalder

dmg24 wrote: »

charlie...

Can I suggest that you take a step back and look at the tone of your posts? We all like a good debate, but your posts are totally out of line. MSE is about help and support, not abusing respected members.

The words pot, kettle and black spring to mind here!

I have noticed your responses to others on these boards elsewhere.

pd001

storminbalder wrote: »

The words pot, kettle and black spring to mind here!

I have noticed your responses to others on these boards elsewhere.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

I havn't but i ll have a look

dmg24

storminbalder wrote: »

The words pot, kettle and black spring to mind here!

I have noticed your responses to others on these boards elsewhere.

I will happily engage in healthy debate, but the last thing I will do is scare off those that are asking for help, or pick arguments for the sake of it.

You do seem to be following me around storminbalder. Perhaps you should get a life? :rolleyes:

koolmummy

likkle wrote: »

Thanks for your help. I might sound blonde but where do i go to file a Defined Court Order

You need to go to the County Court local to your children, or you can download the form here:- http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/HMCSCourtFinder/GetForm.do?court_forms_id=2253

It's a C100 form, an application to commence proceedings. The fee is £175, unless you are exempt. You complete the form, pay the fee and hand it in to the court office. You will then get a date set for a hearing, the date will be sent in the post it can take a few weeks to arrive and then a few months for the hearing date.

The first hearing is normally attended by a CAFCASS officer who will speak to you and your ex and try to reach agreement over arrangements for contact with your children.

I cannot recommend joining FNF enough. They have excellent forums and local meetings, they can provide you with support and information, you will need it.

Good luck.

Kimitatsu

Morning everyone

Please can we have a note of decorum around the forums please - Charlie, please refrain from slanging matches, or refrain from posting. Other please dont bait Charlie.

likkle - a defined contact order unfortunately is the only way to go, however please be aware that it can be a long winded process and even when it is in place the NRP can have a fair amount of lattitude to do what they like! There are supposed to be penalties for breaching the orders but they are rarely imposed - having said that, sooner or later there has to be a sea change, so the more people who complain about it then technically the sooner something should be done.

Maintenance and contact is not linked via the CSA in any form, I know that as my partner pays maintenance that would make most of you weep, but we have very sporadic contact. Having said that maintenance is paid to keep a roof over their head, uniform on their backs and food in their cupboards, and all of that is being done so we cannot complain.

I would recommend getting a solicitor though to get a contact order - it can be a minefield. If you have assets of £16k then you may be entitled to legal aid, a list of legally aidable solicitors can be found at www.cls.org.uk

Good luck

kelloggs36

There is a slight link between maintenance and contact, in that if the NRP has child/ren for 1 night per week or more, there is a reduction in the amount payable. Under CS1 this was 2 nights per week or more. Many argue that this encourages the PWC to withold contact due to the loss of maintenance.

Blob

You hit the nail on the head this time, yes the system is used to get as much out of NRPs as possible. It means that the CSA is being used as a weapon by PWC to get at their ex's, this has to be stoped as it is blatent and not what is in the best intrest of the children!

Soubrette

Blob wrote: »

You hit the nail on the head this time, yes the system is used to get as much out of NRPs as possible. It means that the CSA is being used as a weapon by PWC to get at their ex's, this has to be stoped as it is blatent and not what is in the best intrest of the children!

Oh I wish this was the case.

And the funny thing is this is exactly what my ex perceives - I have maliciously gone to the CSA even when our former arrangement of him paying what he wants directly to the kids was working perfectly.

Of course the fact he paid about £500 per annum to them on a salary of over £50000 is neither here nor there.

The CSA will not investigate his true income (he has declared a minimum wage income and is a director of his own company) because I can only give circumstantial evidence that he earns that much.

A look at his tax returns would settle the issue for once and for all but no, he has the right to be believed unless I can produce bank statements (of his) proving his income.

My point is not what a load of !!!!less idiots NRPs are., always looking to evade responsibility or even that the CSA is an organisation against any PWC unless they are benefits.

My point is the some NRPs will go to any lengths to avoid their responsibilities to their children as will some PWCs. The CSA seems powerless to stop either of them.

Sou