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Vendor removing fitted carpets!

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  • i simply would not accept that sort of stingyness. let them do whatever they want. if they do not leave the carpets then i would not complete the sale. if they tear the carpet out then you should tell your solicitor not to finalise exchange of contracts - you should be able to do this right up to the last minute. if you find the carpets ripped up simply withdraw from the sale. they will find it harder to sell a house with ripped up carpets and will have to go through finding another seller. this attitude of theirs is astounding. i wouldn't put up with it. sorry, i do not have empathy for them. i'm selling my house and will automatically be including carpets. and paid £900 to have a brand new pure wool carpet on the stairs and ripping it out WOULD be vandalism. afterall, what on earth could i do with a load of bits of carpet?!
  • themaccas
    themaccas Posts: 1,453 Forumite
    I just can't believe some people!! They should be grateful they have sellers! When we sold last year we included brand new carpets, most curtains and all of the hand made blinds, Bosch washine machine and dishwasher (free standing), left all the lightbulbs too! We even offered them our beautiful Siemens stainless steel fridge freezer that cost us nearly £900 from John Lewis and only 18 months old for a bargain price of £150, the only thing we wanted money for but they declined so we sold it on ebay for £175. I regret that decision like mad now but we had integrated appliances so didn't have the room. We are now going to reconfigure the kitchen a bit and want to have a freestanding fridge freezer just like the one we had!
    Debtfree JUNE 2008 - Thank you MSE:T
  • tbs624
    tbs624 Posts: 10,816 Forumite
    Whether buying or selling, it's stressful. Some posters are saying its petty to take carpets and then suggesting that the buyer insists that the gripper rods are removed if that is twhat the vendor intends to do, but how petty is that? If Dumbledore was to have new carpets then s/he would presumably need gripper rods, so nose...spite...face?

    So long as whatever the vendor wants to take is listed as being due to be taken then it's legal.

    It work both ways - if you want to lose a house that you really like over some carpets and curtains then maybe the stress of it all is too much for you to handle and you should just walk away.

    As Badger Lady said way back at the start, there are two sides to these sort of things. You have to keep it in perspective.

    Usually the costs of an indemnity cert would be down to the vendors to cover and they will meet that sticking point whoever they sell to, but if you want to get on and buy the house , offer to pay half. In the grand scheme of a house purchase what's a hundred quid?
  • Dumbledore55
    Dumbledore55 Posts: 1,435 Forumite
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    tbs624 wrote: »
    Whether buying or selling, it's stressful. Some posters are saying its petty to take carpets and then suggesting that the buyer insists that the gripper rods are removed if that is twhat the vendor intends to do, but how petty is that? If Dumbledore was to have new carpets then s/he would presumably need gripper rods, so nose...spite...face?

    So long as whatever the vendor wants to take is listed as being due to be taken then it's legal.

    It work both ways - if you want to lose a house that you really like over some carpets and curtains then maybe the stress of it all is too much for you to handle and you should just walk away.

    As Badger Lady said way back at the start, there are two sides to these sort of things. You have to keep it in perspective.

    Usually the costs of an indemnity cert would be down to the vendors to cover and they will meet that sticking point whoever they sell to, but if you want to get on and buy the house , offer to pay half. In the grand scheme of a house purchase what's a hundred quid?

    We would gladly have met them half way if they were in the least bit co-operative but they haven't been so they will now have to work to my timescale. In fact if we have to pay the whole indemnity fee we wil do.

    A hundred quid may not be much to you but it is to me and I've already got so many other things to buy.

    They are petty - they have even removed a file they had in the kitchen with instruction booklets for all the appliances. They wanted the early completion date, now they can wait while I enjoy a well-earned holiday.
  • They sound like complete knob heads! I'd be tempted to pull out but i'm petty! Have a lovely holiday and keep them waiting if they havn't come up with the fee for the conservatory.

    xx
  • tbs624
    tbs624 Posts: 10,816 Forumite
    They sound like complete knob heads! I'd be tempted to pull out but i'm petty! ...
    You've read just one side of the story - you may have posted exactly the same response if it had been the vendor posting their tale on here about a purchaser who was trying to pay the lowest possible price but at the same time get the maximum benefit. If you're selling and you need every last quid yourself then taking the carpets & curtains for your next property can help to keep your own costs down. None of us know what position the vendors themselves are in.

    The vendor may just decide to let the property out for a while, an FTB may come along or that other buyer in a chain may start to look a more pleasant option.

    Both parties will want the best deal they can get from their own perspective, the problem is when you start taking it personally.
  • roses
    roses Posts: 2,333 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    I don't think the point is "the seller is trying to get as much money as possible". What benefit will taking our carpets do for them? Curtains fair enough but carpets are custom cut for each room and taking them out is just spiteful.
  • Dumbledore55
    Dumbledore55 Posts: 1,435 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    tbs624 wrote: »
    You've read just one side of the story - you may have posted exactly the same response if it had been the vendor posting their tale on here about a purchaser who was trying to pay the lowest possible price but at the same time get the maximum benefit. If you're selling and you need every last quid yourself then taking the carpets & curtains for your next property can help to keep your own costs down. None of us know what position the vendors themselves are in.

    The vendor may just decide to let the property out for a while, an FTB may come along or that other buyer in a chain may start to look a more pleasant option.

    Both parties will want the best deal they can get from their own perspective, the problem is when you start taking it personally.

    The vendors have been re-located through work and are currently in rented property paid for by the company the husband works for. The curtain s never have been an issue for me and I have negotiated the carpets as part of the selling price.

    My point now is that the indemnity is THEIR responsibility even if they sell to someone else they will need one. They may need as much money as they can get for their new house when they find one but I'm sure they don't need the instruction booklets for appliances left in their old house. The date they wanted us to complete was more convenient for them than us, due to our holiday so now we are in an argument about who pays for the indenity - they can wait for a date that suits us more.

    They haven't found a property yet, they want the money first so they aren't in a chain and can get the best deal they can - just like us! Even their own estate agent says that they hope somebody treats them the same way they've treated us. Even when we came up to the asking price they wanted and they said they would deal at, they still re-contacted everybody else that had viewed it to see if they could beat us.

    As I said, if they had been co-operative I might have met them half way but it wasn't us that breached the covenant it was them so they should pay the cost of the indemnity certificate.
  • Alias_Omega
    Alias_Omega Posts: 7,917 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    Wow, an interesting read.

    After all the hassle you have gone through, i would be against paying the fee, maybe you can tell them this (text etc).

    Then i would go on holiday, spend the time knowing that they maybe sweating on this, and may find that when you return its been sorted out.

    Though, in the big picture, your a few pence in the scheme of things of taking hold of the house.

    So i forecast that when you return from the holiday, if they have not paid it, you will pay it yourself.

    All the best,

    AliasOmega
  • I was speaking to a friend yesterday about when she bought her house. She said the garden was full of blooming daffodils. The sellor had asked if she could remove a couple of rose bushes for sentimental reasons and my friend had said yes. On the moving day when she arrived at the house she discovered that all the daffodils had been removed and the bulbs dug up. Couldn't believe the amount of time it would have taken to do that compared to the cost of some bulbs!
    :rotfl: l love this site!! :rotfl:
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