Merc v. Saab

harveybobbles

The !!!!!! 1.9 can be found in Alfa's, Saab's, Fiat's and Vauxhall's is waht I was referring to.

I beg to differ about the 16v being better than the 8v - we have less trouble with warranty work on the lower powered 8v unit.

vikingaero

kitchpoo wrote: »

Some clarification on comonality of engines....

The 2.0 T Petrol Saab unit is unique to Saab and was a Saab development and is not the same as the 2.0 T in the Vectra platform.

The 2.0T Vectra is hardly a common engine in the Vauxhall range. It's outnumbered by the 1.8 and 2.2 petrols.

The 2.2 TiD is the GM Y22DTH unit and the 1.9 is the cross development from the Alfa/Fiat range, in both the 8 and 16v guise.

The best engine is the 16v 1.9.

Only the chassis and most auxillary engine componants (starter, alternator etc) are compatible across the Saab/GM counter.

The 2.2TiD was Saabs stop-gap engine to provide a diesel engine for the range. The 1.9 is by now the most common engine on 9-3's and unfortunately shares the same common traits as the same engine in the Vauxhall/Opel platform - ie. tis a bucket o' crap.

Hintza

I though Mrecedes had learnt their lesson and have moved away from accountancy driven car manufacture and back to it's routes of engineering excellence. However I guess we wil just have to wait and see if that is the case.

Brooker_Dave

North-East_Quine wrote: »

indend to keep car for 3 to 4 years

Saab with depreciate down to nothing, Merc will still be worth something.

Saab just some sort of rebadged Vauxhall, Merc proper car.

HTH.

sideshow_matt

Brooker_Dave wrote: »

Saab with depreciate down to nothing, Merc will still be worth something.

Saab just some sort of rebadged Vauxhall, Merc proper car.

HTH.

It is amazingly funny to read some of the posts on this topic.

SAAB currently is part of the GM family, but is by no means a Vauxhall. They use the standard GM floorpan that is also used in the Vectra, but that is about where it ends.

They are fantastically safe, reliable and brilliant to drive. GM are looking to offload SAAB, and currently have 20 bidders (try googling it)

If you are lucky, you can find some pre reged 58 plate 93's in showrooms, with zero mileage with 9k knocked off the book price. The servicing is cheap in comparrison to Merc/BMW/Audi and drive quality alone sets them apart from the German alternative. Go test drive one, and see what I mean.

rattla

Hard for people to give unbiased advise to be honest, everyone likes their own makes and neither a Saab or Merc are bad cars by any means.

Try both and form you own opinion, that's all you can do to be honest. Any car can have issues and you always get an unlucky car here and there that seems to get a lot.

Merc C Classes reliability and build improved substantially from late 2004 and the new C Class from 2007 is a really well respected car, that's bang up to date.

Personally would avoid the Saab, though you are going to get more car/extras for your money.

zappahey

sideshow_matt wrote: »

It is amazingly funny to read some of the posts on this topic.

SAAB currently is part of the GM family, but is by no means a Vauxhall. They use the standard GM floorpan that is also used in the Vectra, but that is about where it ends.

Well, yes, apart from the shared brake, suspension and electrical components as well as a number of ancillary components.

stu20vt

Saab are not going bust, there are 20 bidders and an announcement will be made in June.
I own a 93 V6 Turbo Aero Sportwagon model and am delighted with it. Ticks all the boxes for a fast family car without the image of BMW/Audi.
Oh and it has been the most reliable car I have ever owned, and its safe.

kitchpoo

me wrote:

Some clarification on comonality of engines....

The 2.0 T Petrol Saab unit is unique to Saab and was a Saab development and is not the same as the 2.0 T in the Vectra platform.

vikingaero wrote: »

The 2.0T Vectra is hardly a common engine in the Vauxhall range. It's outnumbered by the 1.8 and 2.2 petrols

I didnt say it was a common engine - it was that the commonality is not the same as the Saab.