Father's Name on Birth Certificate

marshmallows

squibbs25 wrote: »

So if a child was born in 2002, and the parents were not married but got married in before 1st dec 2003 would that dad have PR?

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Parents/ParentsRights/DG_4002954

marshmallows

The mother can still apply for maintenance, the father can deny parentage and then a dna test will be done. IF the results come back he is the father he then has proof he is the father and can open the legal route of getting the birth re-registered with him named as the father therefore giving him pr

Maybeanotherday

I've just read this...my opnion may sound a little harsh I'm not sure...
But when my duaghter was born her father went on the birth certificate in 2003 that didn't mean much...
But now so many years down the line if the baby's father is on the certificate he gets automatic rights to her..he becomes a "legal" guardian anything you wanted to do in the future should as change her surname....prehaps you'll find a guy who you settle down with who treats her like his own you won't be able to get the guy to adopt her...theres allsorts that causes hassles to be honest! If I was you stay well clear of putting him on..you never know what might happen in the future!
Good luck!

SuziQ

I think the right thing is for the fathers name to be on the birth certificate. Also you should be prepared for him to change his mind-and have contact in the future at some time. It is your daughters right to know her father if it is at all possible,and whilst he hasn't behaved as a responsible caring father so far things could change-his current behaviour shouldn't mean that you block any chance of your daughter having a meaningful relationship with him at some time.

God forbid anything every happens to you,but if it should-his name on the birth certificate or not-if he wanted to take her and raise her the law would very much support his actions,as he could simply have a dna test to prove parentage in any case.There are many cases in law you can look up to show what I am talking about.

Why on earth would you want to block the possibilty of your daughter being with her natural father if anything happened to you? It makes no sense to me at all and I think you are just having a knee jerk reaction because you are (understandably) hurt that he hasn't been as happy about the pregnancy as you-often the case when a pregnancy is not planned,my husband was shocked for months after I found I was expecting my third child and really didn't come aorund to the idea until he was a living breathing child he could hold (and instantly fall in love with!).
If his feelings of rejection continue then he wouldn't make the effort to raise her anyway,so that you have nothing to worry about. But should there be any chance of him having a change of heart,for your daughters sake I hope you will embrace it.

Zara33

SuziQ wrote: »

I think the right thing is for the fathers name to be on the birth certificate.

God forbid anything every happens to you,but if it should-his name on the birth certificate or not-if he wanted to take her and raise her the law would very much support his actions,as he could simply have a dna test to prove parentage in any case.There are many cases in law you can look up to show what I am talking about.

Just a few tiny problems i have with your post

How can you put a "father's" name on a birth certificate if he is adament that he doesn't want to be on it
Also by getting a DNA does not automatically give the "father" any rights to care/look after a child if a "mother" dies. It is and always will be what's in the be interest of a child.

2) What happens to my minor children?
If you are married the situation is simple - the surviving parent will continue to look after the children.
What happens if you die together or if you are a single parent?
If you are the person with parental responsibility you are entitled to appoint a guardian in your will. If a guardian has not been appointed then the Courts will make that decision for you.

http://www.robinsons-solicitors.co.uk/willsprobatetrust.asp

Please note: Unless the mother appoints him, an unmarried father will not automatically become the guardian of his natural child on the death of the mother.

http://www.thompsons.law.co.uk/wills/your-will.htm

SuziQ

I agree Zara-bUt what the op was saying was that he MAY be going on to the birth certificate ,she was happy for that to happen,and he may decide that's what he wants once-the baby has arrived.

Please note: Unless the mother appoints him, an unmarried father will not automatically become the guardian of his natural child on the death of the mother.
And I have no argument with this either. But REALISTICALLY speaking and if you do case searches,you will find that despite what a mOther may want,if the biological father wants to bring his child up and there are no reasons he shouldn't ie something making him unsuitable-preference WILL be given to the biological father.Certainly this is the case in England.

The reason I know this is because I have a friend who went through just this. The solicitor took a whole bundle of case-law to support his application to take custody of his child-and he was awarded very quickly as he was the child's closest living relative and deemed suitable for the childs care. This was over and above the grandmother who had been caring for the child after her mother died (in childbirth).She is still very involved in the child's life and after a shaky start the grandmother and my friend have formed a very close bond because of the child.Surely this is the best possible outcome for this child given the terribly tragic circumstances of her birth? And yes-he would be the first to admit that he is thoroughly ashamed for not wanting the child before she was born.We all make mistakes-unfortunately some of them are life changing and have devastating effects on those around us,but even so things can be made as good as they can be given whatever circumstances are involved.

And I still stand by my opinion. I still believe the childs fathers name should be on the birth certificate. You only have to see how many people spend years searching for this information to know that it is a basic right to know your parentage-if he refuses to be put on the birth certificate then shame on him imo.

helphelphelphelp

Because I know what sort of father he is (had plenty of experience when our son was ill in hospital - i.e. he left me on my own as it was 'too depressing for him', ) and because he has wished this baby dead and wanted an abortion, I feel that I would not want my daughter to be looked after by someone who does not want her. This has nothing to do with me. I split up with my other daughter's dad and whatever went on between us has not affected our daughter so like to think I am putting the children first.

but knowing what a poisonous, selfish person he is, would not want him to have any unsupervised access to my daughter and if it means forgoing any maintenance then I think it is a small price to pay for peace of mind. But at the same time, still wondered if I should have him put him name on the BC but to be honest, if it gives him parental right, then I just know he would use that as a method of control.

And there is no way I would want her to live with him if anything happened to me and have made alternative arrangements. Apart from anything I couldnt trust him with the money I would leave for her.

custardy

helphelphelphelp wrote: »

I am currently pregnant but the father of my baby does not want anything to do with her. I dont mind his name being on the birth certificate (as I wouldnt want my daughter to grow up with father unknown stated on a legal document when we know who her father is) but am more concerned that if anything happens to me, I would need to know if he would get automatic custody of a child he doesnt even want.

I have arranged for her to be looked after by my other daughter's godparents should I no longer be able to do so myself, but am not sure legally if a will or other legal document would out weigh his name being on the birth certificate.

And if I did go down the route of saying I didnt know who the father was to ensure she didnt end up with someone who has little interest in her, what implications would there be for her or me in the future.

Thanks

things may change though.my ex (yes its complicated ) got pregnant and i'll be honest i wasnt happy,didnt want to know etc but did stick around to help her.
however when he was born(i was there) the second he was put in my hands it all changed.
something just clicked and i ended up the typical doting dad
were not together but do still live together as its easier and i get to spend much more time with my boy

TonkaJohn

Hello everyone.
I wonder if any of you's could help with a situation that's just arrised.
16yrs ago. While I was going out with this girl. She fell pregant.
I beleived it was mine till a couple of years later she told me that she was still seeing her old boyfriend. And wasn't sure if it was mine. She left me and went back to the other boyfreind.
His name was put on to the birth certificate
Last year she got back in touch with me and told me that the child was mine. 6 months later she's now asking if I want to be put on to the Birth Certificate
The Child is just comming up to 16.I don't know where to go to for advice about this. So any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
TonkaJohn

Zara33

TonkaJohn wrote: »

Hello everyone.
I wonder if any of you's could help with a situation that's just arrised.
16yrs ago. While I was going out with this girl. She fell pregant.
I beleived it was mine till a couple of years later she told me that she was still seeing her old boyfriend. And wasn't sure if it was mine. She left me and went back to the other boyfreind.
His name was put on to the birth certificate
Last year she got back in touch with me and told me that the child was mine. 6 months later she's now asking if I want to be put on to the Birth Certificate
The Child is just comming up to 16.I don't know where to go to for advice about this. So any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
TonkaJohn

The wise thing to do here would be to get yourself a DNA test before anymore chopping and changing of names on a birth cetificate.