Am I being over sensitive?

seven-day-weekend

I think this teacher is either a bully, or has a confidence problem, or both.

In over twenty years of teaching, my husband never gave any pupil a detention - he felt that it was a waste of time and taught them nothing. He felt it was far better to try to teach the pupil something from the experience.

However, there are very few methods of discipline left to teachers now; detention is one of the few that is still deemed acceptable.

I do rememeber my husband telling me he had put one lad in the stock cupboard because he kept messing about (not as bad as it sounds, it was a large room with windows to the outside and he didn't lock the door) and the lad came out at the end and said to my husband that he'd done so much work now that he wasn't getting distracted by his 'mates' and could he go in the stock cupboard every lesson? But he didn't want to lose face in front of his mates so could my husband tell him off for something before he went in?

My husband agreed and every lesson the lad went in the stock cupboard, did tons of work and got a 'B' for his GCSE.

Co-operation and understanding on both sides.

Spendless

What's happened to giving D's or E's for work? Unless it was something like he handed in a empty cornflake packet with nothing done to it as his 'model' and then I can see a detention being given as punishment for trying to be 'clever'.

PolishBigSpender

DKLS wrote: »

Out of interest Polishbigspender, what would be the range of punishments available to use on pupils in Poland?

We've got the system of "behaviour grades" - from "perfect" to "blameworthy". So if the child misbehaves, the teacher can punish him by giving a lower grade.
However, homework is marked anyway, so low standard homework would gain a low grade, simple.No need for any other punishment! We don't have detentions or lines. Student caught on destroying school property would be asked to repair the damage. Otherwise I can't imagine anyone forcing the kid to remove the chewing gum from the desks. I would find it truly disgusting and probably wouldn't force myself to even touch it

erichamster

PolishBigSpender wrote: »

Otherwise I can't imagine anyone forcing the kid to remove the chewing gum from the desks. I would find it truly disgusting and probably wouldn't force myself to even touch it

You wouldn't have to TOUCH it, you get a spoon

seven-day-weekend

Spendless wrote: »

What's happened to giving D's or E's for work? Unless it was something like he handed in a empty cornflake packet with nothing done to it as his 'model' and then I can see a detention being given as punishment for trying to be 'clever'.

Absolutely notihng, although my husband was reported to the Ombudsman by a parent for giving her son a D.:eek:

Spendless

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

Absolutely notihng, although my husband was reported to the Ombudsman by a parent for giving her son a D.:eek:

When I was at school for giving in sub-standard work you'd have got a D or E, that was your punishment. Your poor grade would be relective in the overall grade you got that went in your school report and would quite possibly brought up by your teacher at parents evening.

Doing lines, detentions were for things like talking in class, being cheeky etc.

I honestly have never heard of getting a detention for homework handed in.

seven-day-weekend

I agree the lad should not have got a detention for handing his homework in.

globalds

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

I agree the lad should not have got a detention for handing his homework in.

The lad didn't do his homework ..Half or poorly done home work is not done.
Maybe the parent should take more responsibility in this and get into the habit of checking and getting involved in their kids homework.

moggylover

xxdeebeexx wrote: »

I think that the punishment is quite unrelated to the 'crime'. I feel that a low effort and attainment grade should have been sufficient, with your son being asked to repeat/ improve on the homework.

Seems to me that the Teacher has problems in controlling the class and is using severe, outdated punishment to gain some respect. I would be very suprised if picking chewing gum was a school policy.

A good, well rounded, inspiational Teacher wouldn't want to, or need to, give out such punishments.

Sever punishment does not = a good school.
However, fair, appropriate discipline usually does = a good school.

Dx

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EXACTLY!


This is NOT a good teacher instilling respect and a work ethic or teaching a child to be enthusiastic about the subject! This is a bully who does not know how to teach or keep discipline.

To the OP - I would let it go this time (but would want to see the model as others have said) but keep an eye on this particular teacher as my DS was glad to get rid of one of his year 7 teachers who took a dislike to him (and another two boys from the other year 7 class he took) and made their lives a misery for the entire year. My DS liked the subject but was abjectly miserable in that class and did not do well. The following year, new teacher and he has come on leaps and bounds and gone up a group in the subject and according to this new teacher he is very good at it and a bright and engaging lad to teach.

Not all teachers are capable of being decent human beings let alone decent teachers: two years later on and several complaints from other parents and Mr Nasty (as he had long been nicknamed) was removed from my sons school for victimising children. It takes a REALLY sad adult to bully kids instead of teaching them.;)

Personally, if I liked my teachers I tried desperately hard to please. If I did not like them (and oh God I hated Mr Shot my physics teacher with the flying board rubber) then I did just what I had to do and not one iota more:o .

squashy

As a parent the first thing I would be looking to find out is what exactly was the assignment set? Could it have been very specific about the use of a number of different materials for example? If the child had only used one material then they HAVEN'T completed the homework, and yes perhaps a punishment is needed. You didn't see the homework so maybe he sat for 1 hour 50 minutes staring into space and only 10 minutes constructing the thing. Maybe he had to write out plans and an evaluation for his design and failed to do so?