Help required with tennant not paying rent :(

Wrong_Move

Thanks for that.

Indeed I have told the tax man, but currently am making a loss as this guy isn't paying.

I'll look at the web site you suggested, much appreciated.

AverageJoe_4

clutton wrote: »

have you put his deposit money into a Deposit Scheme ?? if you have not he will take you to court and ask the judge to award you three times the deposit AND you will not be able to serve him a notice to quit !!!! so firstly , get that deposit lodged with Deposit Protection Service - like YESTERDAY !!!!

OMG, please - this tenant is a chancer. He will not be taking anyone to court. The only way to deal with this with the outcome you want, is to take matters into your own hands. *rolls eyes*

There are "landlords", and then there are "people that rent their house out to whoever for a while etc..."

Being caught doing this guy over is NOT gonna help you - but use some common sense here. There are MORE landlords or "rentors" that skip under the raidar, and thats how its always been, it wll never change.

He's going to be taken the pi-ss out of even more. It will take a threat on the phone or "stern call" as you would say, and maybe a visit for a face to face "chat" etc...

Ever see that Simpson episode when the Carnnies "steal" Homers house and move in. Well, this is the type of thing that happens in reality everyday with low level cash renting.

What you are asking the OP to do, is shop himself cos he would have broken so many red tape itsy nitsy rules and by-rules by now he mght as well give the tenant his house.

Do what Homer Simpson did, and get the scum out of your house asap. This guy is unlikely to know the rules and score re: landlords etc... and he will moan and put a brick through your window, but move on and con someone else from the local rag a week later.


Alternatively, put your best suit one and your poshest voice, get a 10k bank loan and ride the red tape wave for 6 months MINIMUM and be prepared to come out WORSE than the tenant. He (tenant) will not be effected one bit. You mate, will screw yourself. Your tenaant wil disappear back to the false previos adress he gave you and you'll be having loads of bills and stress.

david29dpo

I have to admit, I have been down the "law" road and got nowhere. The law is an !!!. Big blokes for me next time!

benjo

What an aweful situation to be in, at the moment your situation seems to be

1. You have a tenant you dont want.
2. You are the wrong side of the red tape.
3. It is going to cost you money in lost rent, eviction proceedings, joining the landlords association etc.

While it is massively tempting to bring in the heavies there is no guarantee that your heavies are heavier than his heavies and you could (I dont have a crystal ball) end up in a far worse situation....

1. You still have a tenant you dont want - albeit with a black eye and more likely to put the plugs into the sink, turn on the taps and leave your property to go back to the hole he came from when he does decide to leave.
2. You are still the wrong side of the red tape.
3. You saved yourself some money in joining the landlords association etc.
4. It is still going to cost you money in lost rent and eviction proceedings if your unorthodox approach fails.
5. You 'might' end up with a black eye yourself.
6. You might end up with a criminal record for bringing in the heavies or making threatening phone calls, harrassment etc.

If it were me in that situation I would prefer to follow cluttons suggestions, which might or might not take longer than an unorthodox approach, but hopefully you wont fall foul of the law that way and perhaps the cost of adhering to the red tape will be cheaper than a fine for illegal eviction.

I dont know if you have to serve notice with a witness or if you can send notice by recorded delivery. If you are having trouble finding this guy - perhaps you could catch up with him at his childs school gate? or write giving him notice that you wish to inspect the premises - he might well want to be there and you could serve the notice that way.

Either way, goodluck.

Troubled_Joe

AverageJoe wrote: »

Mate, seriously, this guy is not for real - he's in your flat knowing that if you take a deal from the local rag, its a one on one situation.

The agreement you have with him is worth nothing essentially cos its just you and him and he knows that you have been a trusting gent. If he wanted protection, he would have gone to an agent. No agent means its all under the raidar - no checks, no hassle, no references, he has seemingly all the control over you.

I personally would seek some "streetwise" advice.

"seeking to entertain the services of a legal professional" sounds great, ( seriously...?) but he will look at you and thnk "jesus, this guy has more money than sense" - smile nicely, and charge you a pretty penny for paperwork which will end up taking months and months and then court hearings which no one will turn up to and this guy will not pay you for rent cos he knows you can actually do anything more than write letters... and when its crunch time, he'll fuk off leaving you high and dry with mortgage arrears etc...

check out my signature, it applies to your case mate.

You're not renting an entire block of flats to high society types - I BET this guy is either foreign, a bit of a scumbag or unemployed/cash in hand type.

Am I right.??

Please stop giving advice like this. Aside from being entirely wrong it's now becoming xenophobic.

clutton_2

you need proof that you have served the notice - either tenants signature to say i have received it , or a Statement of Truth from someone else to say they saw you put the notice thru the door at x time on x date - prefereably authorised by a Solicitor by way of a Statutory Declaration (it will cost you £5)

rsykes2000

AverageJoe wrote: »

OK here goes, and you may not like it mate...

1 - did you give him a contract to sign?
2 - if so, legally either party can serve notice on each other with one months minimum notice period.

3 - if he had broken the agreement then evict him immediately - he is now squating and taking services for free - ie theft.

4 - if you didn't give him a contract, find some friends that are "built" and scare the living cr-ap out of him and change the locks in his absence.

5 - do NOT return the deposit you have so far.

6 - I am not a lawyer, just a realist, you'll have to play it the street-level way with this guy cos he's gonna take the pi-ss out of you forever and a day.

AJ

You're clearly aware that there is a swear filter that blocks unsuitable words and yet you try and avoid this to deliberately post swearing. It's pretty immature and childish and reminds me of a recently banned member. Hopefully though if that member has just created a new acccount to log in they weren't stupid enough to use the same IP address as that would make banning this account trivial...

AverageJoe_4

That's great advice for all those ppl out there. Please open your eyes and look at the real world around you.

David29dpo probably followed someones advice and went the red tape way, and like he said - got nowhere.

Wrong-Move, get a lawyer, write lots of letters, pay for you tenant to live in your flat for you, hell send him a gift voucher whilst your at it.

GET a bank loan for at least £10,000 for pay for all your loses, his expenses and YOUR massive legal and red tape expenses too, then repost when he's gone and tell us how it all went for you.

Renting your place out on the cheap out of the daily rag for a cash in hand weekly rent, does not really constitute the "prim and proper world of property letting LTD".... do what you will but this advice you're being given in like the Royal Family trying to tell someone what it's like to live on benefits with 3 kids in a council house in the a*rse-end of East London.

Renting a place out is a "business" no matter how low down or high up it gets. You show me a high profile businessman or a street-trader - they have the same mentality.

Good luck, you will need it if you follow these MSE PRO's to the letter.

AJ

AverageJoe_4

rsykes2000 wrote: »

You're clearly aware that there is a swear filter that blocks unsuitable words and yet you try and avoid this to deliberately post swearing. It's pretty immature and childish and reminds me of a recently banned member. Hopefully though if that member has just created a new acccount to log in they weren't stupid enough to use the same IP address as that would make banning this account trivial...

hush your tongue....

this is a forum where ppl can say what they like pretty much, whether it is YOUR approval or not. you do not run this site.

this is not the CAB or the law society online office. i am not giving legal advice, i am talking about a subject and expressing a view. if you cannot handle that, dont cry in your soup about it - try harder to deal with that fact that not everyone wants a piece of you.

rsykes2000

AverageJoe wrote: »

hush your tongue....

this is a forum where ppl can say what they like pretty much, whether it is YOUR approval or not. you do not run this site.

this is not the CAB or the law society online office. i am not giving legal advice, i am talking about a subject and expressing a view. if you cannot handle that, dont cry in your soup about it - try harder to deal with that fact that not everyone wants a piece of you.

You are clearly a moron and a troll. I point out that you're deliberately bypassing the swear filter and you somehow think that I'm 'crying in my soup' ? As for 'not everyone wants a piece of me', perhaps the stupidest thing I've read recently - it doesn't actually make any sense at all. I couldn't care less what you think about me, your opinions on me are utterly worthless, just like your 'personality'.