house bought.. summer house gone??

brummybloke

im not for going down legal routes if asking nicely will sort it out, when i sold my house i even vacumed and cut the lawn 1 week before completion even though i had not lived in there for 4 months.

maybe in the next couple weeks i will not be bothered as much, but it really was a shock and got me rather angry.

hopefully the seller will have a guilty pang and sort the garden out and put it back to a state like she had proudly kept it.

brummybloke

pawpurrs wrote: »

She may have given it to someone or sold it.
Surely you had some sales particulars from the EA?

as mentioned, i never got sent them from my solicitor, he told me over the phone that it was straight forward and she would be taking just the normal stuff.

tomorrow i will go to the office and see the list for myself, my point is more not fixtures and fittings, it is a structure. structures are not always listed on particulars of sale.

what ever the solicitor says tomorrow i will go along with, life is too short to get too stressed for too long over it. i will merely hunt the old bag down and put the sumer house in her retirement flat, fully constructed in her bedroom.

PasturesNew

There is usually something in the paperwork about "making good any damage caused by the sellers vacating the house", which would cover the holes etc.

The thing seems to be, what you call a summerhouse ... what it actually was.

Did it need planning permission, for example?
I know there are some "pop up, pop down" style of conservatory/summer houses that don't need any planning permission, maybe it was one of these.

QTPie

brummybloke wrote: »

as mentioned, i never got sent them from my solicitor, he told me over the phone that it was straight forward and she would be taking just the normal stuff.

tomorrow i will go to the office and see the list for myself, my point is more not fixtures and fittings, it is a structure. structures are not always listed on particulars of sale.

what ever the solicitor says tomorrow i will go along with, life is too short to get too stressed for too long over it. i will merely hunt the old bag down and put the sumer house in her retirement flat, fully constructed in her bedroom.

No, I think pawpurrs means the "SALES PARTICULARS"... not from the Solicitor, but from the Estate Agent.

You know when you buy a house you tend to get a piece of paper/leaflet with the property details on (i.e. the same as what is on the website)? Well that. Something that says "lovely level back garden with Summerhouse" (or not, as the case may be...)

QT

brummybloke

PasturesNew wrote: »

There is usually something in the paperwork about "making good any damage caused by the sellers vacating the house", which would cover the holes etc.

The thing seems to be, what you call a summerhouse ... what it actually was.

Did it need planning permission, for example?
I know there are some "pop up, pop down" style of conservatory/summer houses that don't need any planning permission, maybe it was one of these.

one of these, not everyones taste i admit.

the summer house was on the photos for the sale broucher but it didnt list much at all.
the sales particulars i prsume are the same as the check list i had to go through when i sold my house? the seller hasa full comprehensive list of stuff they tick or cross, i was never shown it by my solicitor, he told me over the phone, it may be he missed out this summer house.

pawpurrs

Yes I did mean sales particulars.
BB, I hope you will be happy in your new home, despite this little hick up.
The vendor should have made good when she took the summerhouse away, speak to your sol by all means, but unless she just backs down and agrees to send someone in to sort it, its best just to forget, it as its not worth the hassle and the expense of legal action.
I allways try and leave my houses immaculate when I sell and leave a bottle of champers. Unless the buyer has been particularly difficult or gazundered, in which case no champers!

Wishing you every happiness in your new home. :j

PasturesNew

brummybloke wrote: »

one of these, not everyones taste i admit.

the summer house was on the photos for the sale broucher but it didnt list much at all.
the sales particulars i prsume are the same as the check list i had to go through when i sold my house? the seller hasa full comprehensive list of stuff they tick or cross, i was never shown it by my solicitor, he told me over the phone, it may be he missed out this summer house.

To me that's just a shed with a fancy name. So something that was likely to disappear. So the problem is the mess and holes, which they should have tarted up. It's not part of the structure. This is something that should have been detailed on the form the sellers filled out (their solicitor will have sent it), when they listed all the things that were staying/going ... although maybe they filled that in and completely forgot about its existence, then just took it with them.

I can't believe anybody'd go to the effort of taking it with them, but there's nowt so queer as folk.

For the record ... how much do those sheds cost? Just trying to get some perspective on value here ... if it were me I'd rather buy a new one than go to all the hassle and time of taking it apart and carting it somewhere new to stick up again.

Edit: ah, found it, £1200. Blimey, they see people coming. http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.200-3837.aspx

alm721

To be honest I'd be more annoyed at the solicitor. Why on earth didn't they send you a copy of the fixtures and fittings list? Then you'd know whether they intended taking it or not. Agree they should make good the mess but it may be difficult to get them to do this.

brummybloke

PasturesNew wrote: »

To me that's just a shed with a fancy name. So something that was likely to disappear. So the problem is the mess and holes, which they should have tarted up. It's not part of the structure. This is something that should have been detailed on the form the sellers filled out (their solicitor will have sent it), when they listed all the things that were staying/going ... although maybe they filled that in and completely forgot about its existence, then just took it with them.

I can't believe anybody'd go to the effort of taking it with them, but there's nowt so queer as folk.

For the record ... how much do those sheds cost? Just trying to get some perspective on value here ... if it were me I'd rather buy a new one than go to all the hassle and time of taking it apart and carting it somewhere new to stick up again.

Edit: ah, found it, £1200. Blimey, they see people coming. http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.200-3837.aspx

it suprised me also, i also thought it was a shed type thing but then once it was gone i thought of all the great things i could have done in there

play with the dog i dont have
store my bbq set i dont have
get the deck chairs out i dont have

the mess is horrid but a weekend, a skip a shovel, some ground soil and some new turf should sort it out.

i would just rather the seller got someone else to do it than me.

thanks for the advice and thoughts and the nice words, we will grow to love it once we slowly sort the things out.

i was also the ideal purchaser, i went in with an offer , it was decline, improved my offer to my max and told them it was my max, they accepted.
i then assured them that i would stick to my price with no gazundering or sillyness and would complete asap, 6 weeks later i got it all done as i said, and the summer house has put a temporary turd on my heppyness.

kunekune

Sorry, it's a bit of pain really. We were astonished when we got the list of stuff coming with our place we're (hopefully) buying, cos to us it's normal to include all curtains, blinds, lightfittings etc. In other countries that is standard. When I got to the bit about plants on the form I was a bit amazed. [Well, except that when I did my legal professionals course (a short version of the UK LPC) our negotiation exam was about someone who took the plants, so it felt a bit familiar. ]