Bad vet?

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Buttonmoons wrote: »

But then that vet looked at the poo sample, threw it in the bin and said JUST WHAT I THOUGHT, IT'S NOT BEING DIGESTED!! I've never seen kibble in it's poo!

He is a vet... and most likely will know exactly what he is looking for - and may well know something about the pup that it would be in their interestes to listen to - it does not sound like they want to hear the truth uless it is rosy to be honest.

I suspect they are making a big mistake by dismissing his advice out of hand; especially when he knows the breeder and her dogs!

jha

My cat has diarrohea (sp?) sometimes - reason unknown - and my vet gives him Pro Kolin (its like a paste) which firms up stools and has probiotic in it. I believe it is mainly used on dogs you could ask a vet - it worked for me.

I would definatley reccomend a check up by another vet for a seccond opinon. Sorry i cant be of more help - but i would rather leave advice to the dog owners and specialists on this site.

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Hi there

Sorry if this has already been asked/answered but have they actually called the breeder to ask if any of the other pups have this problem, or if any of their 15 dogs have had this problem.

The only reason I ask is that when my dog got very sick and nearly died a couple of years ago, we called the breeders straight away to see if there was any similar "history" with any of their dogs (once the dog was at the vets and they couldn't work out what the problem was) and they were very concerned and helpful.

IMO if they are good breeders they would a) want to know and b) want to help in any way they could. They also asked us to keep them updated as they keep a record of any illnesses that any of their "pups" has had, as a "history" and rang around all the other breeders they knew with the same breed to see if they could help.

Errata

Reading the OP's posts I think a second brain to replace the puppy owners non-working one would be of more use than a second opinion.

Buttonmoons

Well Errata, I'm sure not everyone who gets a dog is armed with all the knowledge you must be blessed with. They are trying to do their best, hence about 5 trips to the vets. Maybe, they don't just wanna give up on their dog.

Jeez.

Anyways, He phoned the Breeder and had a good chat with her, she's coming round tomorrow to see his dog, but she thinks it's overfeeding (She told him that before, but the Vet advised to give more)

So, guess we'll see.

jennyo

I wouldn't let your friend worry too much about what the vet said, they do have a habit of making stupid off the cuff remarks, when questioned on them there is usually no foundation behind it. Vets know very little about behaviour, training, breeding or nutrition, most of them would not know the required tests for each breed of dog, or even where to find the information.

If this breeder was breeding from lines with more problems than the norm she would be foolish to recommend her own vet, where obviously she would be found out.

I would also get your friend to tell the breeder what the vet said, with 15 dogs I would assume she is a very good customer, and should not be bad mouthing her, if there is a basis for his claims and he did Know it was one of her dogs (which he probably didn't) , client confidentiality should have prevented him from saying anything.

The most common cause of runny stools in a pup are overfeeding, a change in water or giving cows milk and other inappropriate suppliments.

As for pups leaving the mum/litter at six weeks that is really breed dependent, I have working sheep dogs, I would always want them at between 6-7 weeks, other breeds who are slower to develop maybe need to stay a little longer. Most WSD mums are sick of the pups by about a week old, and can't wait to see them leave.
I don't know enough about huskies to comment on the breed, but most pups are weaned off mums milk by six weeks, the poor mum has had enough by then, she is physically drained.

I hope your friend gets on well tomorrow, and I wish him all the best.

Buttonmoons

Just thought I'd give this a quick update -

My friend phoned the breeder and told her, she was furious, her dogs aren't inbred, she has the family tree and his dog is 5th or 6th generation (can't remember!) Anyways, her and the vet are seeing each other tomorrow, she threatened to sue him about slander, but I don't think it will come to that, heat of the moment. She just wants an apology.

She took one of the dogs littermates (the one she kept) round to his today to see the dog and his dog is actually a lot bigger, and she says there is nothing wrong with him except they are feeding him over much. One of the other pups she sold (there was 4 altogether) had a bit of a runny bum because of too much food.

So he's to put it on a handful of kibble in the mornings, then some raw mince twice in the evening, and he's to phone her back in 3days and see how his poops look. But she said there is nothing wrong with him at all.

She seems very dedicated to the breed of dogs, and seems concerned and caring even after she has sold the pup (hence visting and phone calls) So my friend is a lot more relaxed now, and hopefully the pup will have some nice solid poopys now

Dansen

Hi Buttonmoons,
When i picked up my siberian husky pup at 10 wks old he was the largest of the litter and looked healthy. We were warned there might be a few days of runny bum due to the stress of a new home, new faces etc. But 2 weeks later it was still occuring. He had lost loads of weight but was still happily chomping on his chow, and bouncing around.

Unsure of what was wrong we took him to the vet who did a blood test. The vet prescribed Hills I/D food to give him to eat instead of the breeder's food. 2days later at 8pm we had a hysterical vet on the fone telling us to stop feeding him the Hills. The blood test revealed my dog had an extremely dangerous allergy to pork. What were we training him with? Pork! What was in both sets of dog food? Pork! Even though there was only a tiny amount in the Hills food it was enough.

It is probably worth forking out for a blood test. We didn't realise we were actually killing him by rewarding him.
It was a nightmare trying to find food and biscuits that don't have animal derivatives (you try looking!) but we did in the end. And wasn't it nice to pick up a solid poo rather than chase a runny one!! Good Luck.