Family Planning?

setmefree2

Wookster wrote: »

hmmmm

I grew up in a small town in Zimbabwe and I had a fantastic childhood - great outdoor life, no influence of drugs/ alcohol, played lots of sport and had lots of time.

My gripes with London are that as a commuter you will spend on average 2 hours a day commuting. That's time you can't spend with the kids. Also its seriously expensive and unless you're earning an absolute fortune it means making tough choices. London also makes one hard and I'm not sure thats a good thing for kids, at least if you grow up somewhere else and become hard you might have some awareness of it. As a parent, I'd be worried silly about the huge range of influences they would come under in London.

My preference would be somewhere on the continent though, with Holland being top of the list.


Also did you see Jamie's school dinners? Need I say more? haha

I don't think Londan makes you hard. I'm not, MrSMF2 isn't nor our kids, our friends and their friends, etc, etc.

Bad things can happen anywhere. Most teenagers are sensible - they hate the fact that everyone thinks they are dumb enough to do drugs and booze at the first oppotunity.

I like Holland and I like the Dutch (they have such good English!).

My kids love school dinners....:cool:

setmefree2

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Mrs toast is due in a couple of months for the 1st time. I anticipate having a couple of little toasters. As well as the joy of family , I will inculcate into them the Confucian importance of supporting ones parents financially in later life.

:money:

Congratulations I hope you get a sleepy one
I ordered two sleepy ones but what I got was sleepless nights for four and a half years:rotfl:

Wookster

setmefree2 wrote: »

I don't think Londan makes you hard. I'm not, MrSMF2 isn't nor our kids, our friends and their friends, etc, etc.

Bad things can happen anywhere. Most teenagers are sensible - they hate the fact that everyone thinks they are dumb enough to do drugs and booze at the first oppotunity.

I like Holland and I like the Dutch (they have such good English!).

My kids love school dinners....:cool:

There is another thing I didn't mention - that is that most environments one looks at mediocracy is valued above excellence. Its not cool to be good at maths.

I want my kids to grow up to be the best that they can possibly be and I'm not entirely convinced that the UK is the place for that.

setmefree2

Wookster wrote: »

There is another thing I didn't mention - that is that most environments one looks at mediocracy is valued above excellence. Its not cool to be good at maths.

I want my kids to grow up to be the best that they can possibly be and I'm not entirely convinced that the UK is the place for that.

This isn't my experience of schools. Most schools seem to be highly competitive. All schools (primary and secondary) use setting these days and everyone is encouraged to do there best. The top sets are encouraged to achieve top results. Mostly my kids have been well taught in Maths. In fact, Maths & Science are taught in a much more thoughtful way than when I was at school. Most teachers are highly professional and seem to be aware that they have to cater to all ability groups.

Personally, I like the constant testing that goes on in schools but I seem to be alone in this:rolleyes:. I hope the government (who ever they are) don't do away with SATs but I fear they will as they are very expensive to run. The govenment has already done away with them at 13 (though our kids school is going to continue to have them).

setmefree2

Anyhoo, back on topic. We had our first kid in the 90's recession. When I think about it, this worked in our favour as we bought our first house at rock bottom prices. The next house move was done in the boom and that was more of a stretch financially.

On balance I think it's probably better to have children in a downturn when house prices are low, but I suppose it's more difficult in a down turn to find well paid work - so maybe it's just swings and roundabouts?

neas

We arent putting off children due to recession, but circumstance seems to slow us down anyways. Wife may go to university, i she does we wouldnt have kids for a while.... however this means until we know about uni we are putting them off temporarily so to speak.

Snooze

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Mrs toast is due in a couple of months for the 1st time. I anticipate having a couple of little toasters.

You could have saved yourselves a while pile of time and hassle if you'd just gone to Argos :





Rob

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housesitter

Snooze wrote: »

You could have saved yourselves a while pile of time and hassle if you'd just gone to Argos :

Saved even more with Tesco Value ones :rolleyes: :rotfl:

amcluesent

Just FYI, the population growth of Muslims in Britain is 10 times that of the rest of the population. Not much evidence of family planning there - anyone else having kiddies should consider if they want them to live under Shariah Law.

twirlypinky

robin_banks wrote: »

Not as simple as you think to get a council flat.

I'm sure it isn't, but i have to say, I do wonder at times why I'm struggling so hard on my own when other people simply don't bother.