Landlord wants to 'pop in'

franklee

roses wrote: »

Is this really such a big deal? When I was renting, it was much more of a convenience for my landlord to come over whenever he needed and I never had an issue with it. Mine lived abroad and kept a few of his things in the loft and came by once every few months to get post and check the house was still standing. If I had to arrange to be in whenever he wanted to come over, it would have caused me a lot more stress than him just letting himself in. Have you got anything to hide?

This makes no difference, tenants are individuals and as such it will vary from tenant to tenant how they feel on this issue. If you are happy for the landlord to enter when you aren't there then all fine, but that doesn't mean other tenants feel the same way as you. If a tenant minds then they can refuse access until a mutually convenient time is agreed upon. Certainly I would not allow anyone in my home without my being present (apart from my own friends and family of course). It doesn't need justifying it's just personal preference.

poppysarah

roses wrote: »

Is this really such a big deal?

Are you a bloke?

I'm not sure whether it's girls feel more vulnerable with landlords having keys to their homes.

littlemissmoney

roses wrote: »

Is this really such a big deal?

Personally, I would feel violated if my LL (or anyone) entered my home when I wasn't there. (I'm female).

TrickyNiki

I used to feel uncomfortable with my old landord and would always be present in the house when he was there. My boyfriend always came over too. My landlord kept asking him to leave and when he didnt accused me of violating my tenancy agreement by subletting. Needless to say My partner never left and continued to be around when my landlord was there.

I am wary around people I dont really know.

barnaby-bear

tbs624 wrote: »

There is an implied covenant in a tenancy agreement that a LL may enter the property upon giving a minimum of 24 hours notice but that is only for the purpose of checking the condition of the property and complying with his/her repairing obligations under S11 of the LL & T Act 1985. It is reasonable for a T to say that they want any visit ( including the repairs/inspection ones) to be at a time that is mutually convenient.

No there isn't - there is statutory right to quiet enjoyment which was even upheld when a tenant refused access for the gas safety to be done (nutter). The tenant can refuse inspections with or without the LL there, of couse the LL can give notice.

barnaby-bear

RainMaker wrote: »

It's not acceptable because a) You would deny the LL his right of entry for the purpose of inspection, following 24 hours notice and b) The locks are part of the LL's fixture and fittings.

Would you change the bathroom suite if you didn't like the look of it ?

a) the LL has no right of entry for inspections
b) if the tenant replaces the lock barrel and changes it back so property in same condition at start of tenancy that's ok (the LL does have come back for damage though sustained for emergency access if locks changed e.g. if they have to break a window for a gas leak and can't get access)

If a tenant wants to replace the bathroom they can AS LONG as they put the old one back and return the property as let... likewise a tenant doesn't have to keep the house tidy or even clean they can leave dirty pants and smear fat all over the kitchen provided it's returned in the state it was let in.

barnaby-bear

littlemissmoney wrote: »

Personally, I would feel violated if my LL (or anyone) entered my home when I wasn't there. (I'm female).

Rapists, thieves and perverts can be LLs too... but seriously would you average LL let a random tenant have unaccompanied access to their house (and they've done a credit/reference check)... the worst are the amatures who once lived there and think they still do - and think they can store their junk in the loft/garage they are getting rent for... if it's not on the inventory you can bin it and are doing the LL a favour by storing it at all.

RainMaker_2

barnaby-bear wrote: »

a) the LL has no right of entry for inspections
b) if the tenant replaces the lock barrel and changes it back so property in same condition at start of tenancy that's ok (the LL does have come back for damage though sustained for emergency access if locks changed e.g. if they have to break a window for a gas leak and can't get access)

If a tenant wants to replace the bathroom they can AS LONG as they put the old one back and return the property as let... likewise a tenant doesn't have to keep the house tidy or even clean they can leave dirty pants and smear fat all over the kitchen provided it's returned in the state it was let in.

My Dear Chap,

You are categorically wrong on both a) & b).

This is because when you rent a property you are paying for the quiet enjoyment of the property, not assuming the rights of the freeholder during the period that you pay rent.

barnaby-bear

RainMaker wrote: »

My Dear Chap,

You are categorically wrong on both a) & b).

This is because when you rent a property you are paying for the quiet enjoyment of the property, not assuming the rights of the freeholder during the period that you pay rent.

If a LL wants access but a tenant has refused they have to go to court. A LL does not have the right to enter where a tenant has refused.
http://www.manchester.gov.uk/site/scripts/documents_info.php?categoryID=108&documentID=1862&pageNumber=2

http://england.shelter.org.uk/get_advice/advice_topics/eviction/harassment_and_illegal_eviction/what_counts_as_harassment
Examples of harassment

Harassment can take a number of different forms, for example:

• entering your home when you are not there, without your permission

barnaby-bear

RainMaker wrote: »

My Dear Chap,

You are categorically wrong on both a) & b).

This is because when you rent a property you are paying for the quiet enjoyment of the property, not assuming the rights of the freeholder during the period that you pay rent.

If the tenant refuses access for something as important as the Gas Safety the LL still can not go in but has to go to court and take the proper routes to gain access:http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:jRmEUxo-h24J:www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/indg285.pdf+tenant+refused+access+for+gas+safety+court+case&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5&gl=uk