Thread for the Uber Frugals..... Complete an SOA and lets see how we compare...

mbga9pgf

Not at the moment its not.

Inclusive of wives/partners at last, in 2012.


http://www.army.mod.uk/4279.aspx

about time they did something to support our partners.


Sorry, we both brush, floss and inter dental brush each evening. It was my understanding you generally only had dental problems if you didn't look after your teeth. Oh, the fact we dont smoke apparently helps too..

So, for the missus, its only a check up.

lana22

minnie123 wrote: »

Am I missing something I am with an NHS dentist but I still have to pay??

Me too!
I think the OP is either lying about the dentist or underestimating what they spend!

I am so glad that I don't feel the need to live - sorry, exist - like this.

I too have seen fathers grieving over daughters, seen more than one member of the same family die in car accidents etc. But it doesn't mean I stop buying small gifts for family and friends at Christmas time. It actually makes me grateful for my family, makes me realise life is too short, and makes me determined to live it to the full.
I did my medical elective in a hospital in rural Zimbabwe (2 years ago, when it was quite troubled), and saw some horiffic things, so it's not just in "sanitised" Britain that I have experienced death and dying.

I think if the OP feels that seeing someone dying has affected him in such a way that he lives his life to such an extreme measure, and that the rest of us are "weak", then I genuinely fear for his mental wellbeing. War can lead to all sorts of mental health problems, and I worry that the military is not doing all it can to screen for PTSD and the like.

lana22

mbga9pgf wrote: »

Not at the moment its not.

Inclusive of wives/partners at last, in 2012.


http://www.army.mod.uk/4279.aspx

about time they did something to support our partners.


Sorry, we both brush, floss and inter dental brush each evening. It was my understanding you generally only had dental problems if you didn't look after your teeth. Oh, the fact we dont smoke apparently helps too..

So, for the missus, its only a check up.

You pay for check ups! So your wife is either lying about going, or she has a secret stash of cash somewhere to pay for her dental care:rotfl:

minnie123

I don't smoke I floss and brush twice a day - BUT you are still meant to have a check up every 6 months anyway.

mbga9pgf

lana22 wrote: »

I think if the OP feels that seeing someone dying has affected him in such a way that he lives his life to such an extreme measure, and that the rest of us are "weak", then I genuinely fear for his mental wellbeing. War can lead to all sorts of mental health problems, and I worry that the military is not doing all it can to screen for PTSD and the like.

Dont worry, im fine. I dont live like this as a result of my experiences, it does annoy me a lot though when I hear those complaining about their life lot in this country when the truth is they dont know how lucky they are. I was commenting on the selfish attitude that seems to have become prevalent in the UK together with a complete lack of community spirit to help your neighbours. Most of us havent event met our neighbours these days, never mind knowing if they need a hand with anything.

The military does plenty for PTSD, and isnt treated with the stigma that it used to have as little as 10 years ago... I have had friends who have suffered and are now fully recovered. We used to have a phrase "LMF" or Low moral fibre, which, imo, was an absolutely disgusting thing to label people, and one used typically by those that have not "been there". I can assure you each and every one of us, no matter how brave, has had to fight inner daemons and suppress fear. Unfortunately, if you push people long enough, they will do what their body knows is natural. The guilt people feel as a result has led people to suicide. I had one friend who told me he would have preferred to have suffered an injury than living with the guilt that he had problems dealing with fear on one occasion.

I didnt budget for presents, I am sure that is probably one of the areas that pushes our monthly spend up to around 50-70 pounds over my estimate. Its too irregular to factor. As for presents though, its typically a bottle of wine for the adults with a card, and something better for the younger ones. As I said though, my wife and I dont lavish gifts on each other just for birthdays or christmas, not to say I dont buy the odd box of chocolates, flowers or go to the extra effort of making a nice slap up meal. I personally dont see issue with this, we both agree its pointless to buy tat for each other that we simply don't need, nor really want.

I too have seen fathers grieving over daughters, seen more than one member of the same family die in car accidents etc. But it doesn't mean I stop buying small gifts for family and friends at Christmas time. It actually makes me grateful for my family, makes me realise life is too short, and makes me determined to live it to the full.

Sorry, I dont agree with this at all. I appreciate my family and friends. My relationship is not defined by how much tat I buy them, but my willingness to drop things at a moments notice to help them, using my leave if necessary. Again, if buying things that people really dnt need is seen as a sign of living life to the full, I suggest you get out a bit more.

mbga9pgf

minnie123 wrote: »

I don't smoke I floss and brush twice a day - BUT you are still meant to have a check up every 6 months anyway.

Why? And why is it unhygenic not to? Or have you fell for the crap they tell you to elicit a regular customer to pay their bills?

SingleSue

It was always 2 years when I was younger...more often if you was having problems.

mitchaa

mbga9pgf wrote: »

Why not take a look at the board of directors of British Aerospace, MBDA, Westlands, Chemring, Rolls Royce, Marshalls, Airbus, EADS, Boeing UK together with a whole host of others.

Virgin employs approximately 70% of ex-mil pilots, slightly less but still significant number for BA, Monarch, netjets and flybe. You also want to look into jobs that involve human factors and human failings (nuclear industry), deep sea diving, civvie mine disposal, finance (yes, finance), close protection, as well as the mobile phone industry just to see the depth of experience former mil technical specialists bring. The stereotypical image of the mil being a bunch of trained netherandals is long gone. by far, we are a highly trained group of technical specialists with commercially viable skill sets.

The companies you mention above are aviation industries, which is my field of expertise True, the majority of pilots use the military as a stepping stone to get into civil aviation at no expense, but i'm sure you'll know there is a lot of legislation standing in your way to just simply transfer from military aviation to civil aviation. Prime example would be engineering, the aircraft engineers in the forces get no advantages in the civilian aviation world as although they have the experience, the military does not give them their EASA/CAA licenses, so 22yrs in the forces as an aircraft engineer, and you can struggle without this CAA license to secure a job in civil aviation as legally you will not be allowed to do so. There is a lot of cross over to do with flying also, you simply cannot walk from flying an apache gunship in Afghanistan, to ferrying offshore workers in the north sea in a Sikorsky S92.

The stereotypical image of the mil being a bunch of trained neanderthals rings true to some extent, as a lot of the military make up the cannon fodder aspects, i.e the infantry sides.
There are a lot of technical jobs in the military i agree, but there are also a lot of jobs that are going to do you no use on civvy street. Tank mechanic/driver/commander, infantry soldier etc

Officers are well trained academically but put them into practice and we all know its the soldiers, sailors and airmen that do the work, whilst generally officers sit in offices all day writing confidential reports about the progress of the people beneath them. Ask an AC engineering Army Captain/Major how to carry out a flight servicing of an aircraft and you will be met with a blank confused face, he wouldn't have a clue.

Do not kid yourself, there is a lot of talk with military officers, who more so than not sit and do desk jobs whilst thinking they are so much better than the people below them (Carrying out the work that the officer will get praise for)

I know a lot of military apply for the police forces when they decide to leave, but i wonder just how many of them that make it? Highly trained and disciplined is what the police are after (so ideal ex forces) but i know of a good handful of ex soldiers who have been unsuccessful in their applications into the police forces.

Military is so full of bulls*it it's untrue, you will realise once you are outside the wire

Edited....Apologies, none of the above is to do with your original question, and it's gone way off topic. Your profession has nothing to do with the original query. I was just trying to make the point that it may not be as easy as you think to simply just walk from a good paid military job into a good paid civilian job. (Especially at the moment)

minnie123

mbga9pgf wrote: »

Why? And why is it unhygenic not to? Or have you fell for the crap they tell you to elicit a regular customer to pay their bills?

A check up is not that expensive so why not have my teeth checked every 6 months as recommended. Even people with perfect dental hygiene can get problems such as minor fillings and they can then be caught early. Not going to the dentist to save money seems absurd. A check up twice a year whats that £50 woweee.

The point is your SOA is incorrect as you have not budgeted for everything you pay for. You have now added your wifes check ups and presents. Does your wife not have her hair done at a hairdressers or do you give her a crew or bowl cut to save money. What about clothes or underwear for your wife - or does she wear the same year in year out?

chewmylegoff

mbga9pgf wrote: »

Why not take a look at the board of directors of British Aerospace, MBDA, Westlands, Chemring, Rolls Royce, Marshalls, Airbus, EADS, Boeing UK together with a whole host of others.

so, a small number of large firms (with sector bias) have directors with ex-military experience then? hardly 'most firms', and hardly evidence that there is some kind of clamouring to have ex-military experience on the board because of the wonderful attitude of the military. even if every listed company had a director with military experience, this would still represent the vast minority of companies.

it's hardly abuse to point out that you are making statements with no basis in fact. if you consider this to be 'abuse' which you want to receive, then try not making statemens with no basis in fact.