200 miles on clock is it still classed as new?

Lemonade_Pockets

Premier wrote: »

Not always they're not.

It may be 800+ miles from Lands end to John O'Groats, but if the selling dealer is located in JO'G and the vehicle is in LL, then there's 800 miles. If the buyer requires delivery in LL, then that's another 800 miles back.
If the seller rejects the vehicle originally e.g. because of an incorrect radio fitted, then that's another 1600 miles return journey.

Ok, that may be an extreme, but take an example of a car located in Newcastle, bought from a dealer in Leeds and requires delivery to a customer in Southampton.

I think the point was that, this distance was the maximum that could be honestly be described as delivery mileage i.e 1 journey from supplier to customer. In your leeds example it would taxed and registered before being delivered to the customer so you could argue that mileage between leeds and s'hampton is irrelevant because the car is no longer new anyway.

I don't know to be honest so i'm not claiming this is legal verbatum.
It just always made more sense to me than the arbitrary figure of 300miles or something so thats what i;ve always understood it to be. Plus general manager never tell lies do they

cyclonebri1

It's about expectations isn't it?

Do you expect a brand new car to have 200 miles on the clock? No, you do not. Would you accept it? well I wouldn't

2 things look for a dealer name in the reg and look for the date of 1st registration, that should tell you how new it is.

Wifes last car was Clio we bought as an ex demo at 5 months old, 198miles on the dash, but 2/3 the new price.

maxi_isa

If the "new" car has done, say, 300 miles then find out the running cost per mile of the model and deduct this from the negotiated price. Eg if the AA running cost is 70p/mile, after agreeing what a new car should cost you want another £210 off the price.

Clearly, the car in question must be worth less than one which has no miles on it.

goldspanners

maxi_isa wrote: »

Clearly, the car in question must be worth less than one which has no miles on it.

when its driven out of the dealers fourtcourt it will be worth the exact same.200 miles isnt very much.

goldspanners

Premier wrote: »

Not always they're not.

Have you never seen guys with Trade Plates stood by the side of the road looking for a lift? They've often just delivered (or are on their way to collect) a new car.

Exactly, if only one car is required at one dealership nobody in thier right mind would put it on the back of a transporter to take it to the supplying dealer,a delivery driver would drive it there and hitch his way back home.
my dad drives a transporter, they very rarely go out less than half loaded.
if its a good distance they are going then the very rarely go out less than fully loaded.

Happychappy

At least it has the true mileage on, some cars used to be delivered from showrooms with the speedo disconnected until near to the customers home, fortunately with modern cars this practise is now more difficult as access to the engine bay is more restricted.

Lemonade_Pockets

maxi_isa wrote: »

If the "new" car has done, say, 300 miles then find out the running cost per mile of the model and deduct this from the negotiated price. Eg if the AA running cost is 70p/mile, after agreeing what a new car should cost you want another £210 off the price.

Clearly, the car in question must be worth less than one which has no miles on it.

The salesman has been upfront about the mileage so if you want to factor in a discount for the mileage on it this should be done during the negotiation. If you try and deduct after a price has been i agreed he'd be quite right to tell u to do 1!!!

P.s. Fair enough try use the AA running cost as a guide but all i would say is depreciation is the biggest cost and that is mainly accounted for by age not mileage - the car hasn't aged yet and fuel is the other major cost which you haven't had pay for either. Infact all you can really argue is that you will have to service it sooner. Which lets say it'll cost £200 and is due @ 12k, those 300miles have cost £5............knock yourself out!

If i was the salesman i would say i have this car available now but it has 200 miles on, the price is £10K or your can wait 10weeks and have the same car for the same price but with only a few miles on the clock. But incidently your part exchange is worth £5k now but in 10weeks it will only be worth £4750, what would you like to do MR/MRS customer??

maxi_isa

"when its driven out of the dealers fourtcourt it will be worth the exact same.200 miles isnt very much"

Ah, but on the forecourt there is a difference - and the buyer has choices and negotiating options which he can use before making it, beyond doubt, a second-hand car.

goldspanners

maxi_isa wrote: »

"when its driven out of the dealers fourtcourt it will be worth the exact same.200 miles isnt very much"

Ah, but on the forecourt there is a difference - and the buyer has choices and negotiating options which he can use before making it, beyond doubt, a second-hand car.

i dont think there is.
when i got my focus new it had 130 miles on it.
it was brand new i was first registered owner, came straight from stock pile. it had never been used as a demonstrator or salesmans car.

maxi_isa

Well if there were two identical cars on the forecourt, one with 200 miles on the clock and the other with 5 miles I think most people would see a difference.