200 miles on clock is it still classed as new?

toocan
toocan Posts: 180 Forumite
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my local VW car dealer was saying that deliver milage is anything from 50 - 300 miles. is this correct? is it classed as a new car still? or is he trying to pass off a pre registered car as new?
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  • sandiep
    sandiep Posts: 915 Forumite
    The car has a number plate, yes?

    Some manufacturers will require dealers to register the cars pre number plate change dates, this is to record "sales". Some of the parent holding companies also require the UK manufaturer companies to do the same (Citroen & Peugeot do, I know for sure. Citroen UK owns thousands of registered cars sitting in great big car parks)
    These cars have never been sold etc, but when you get the reg document they will usually show (VW uk) or the dealerships name or something along these lines.

    Ask the dealer if they're pre registered. if so they can't be sold as new, and the dealer needs to discount accordingly. Very good time to haggle. Or tell him you'll come an ask for a price once the 09 plates have been issued.

    You should be looking for a good few £k off list price. I got a focus in such a deal for £4k less than the "new" price.
  • vikingaero
    vikingaero Posts: 10,920 Forumite
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    I have a friend who is a Toyota salesman. He says that if they need to return an unregistered car to Toyota for whatever reason then it must not have covered more than 75 miles.
    The man without a signature.
  • vikingaero
    vikingaero Posts: 10,920 Forumite
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    If I were looking for a car and it had 200 miles on the clock then it 'ain't new no matter what the salesman says. 99% of new cars that I have taken delivery of on our fleet have had less than 20-25 miles on the clock. The highest was 50 miles and one other car was road driven delivered (the quickest way to get it to us) from the Midlands and had 170 miles on the clock, but it was agreed to deliver it this way.
    The man without a signature.
  • Hotspur
    Hotspur Posts: 528 Forumite
    It could still be a new car if it is unregistered stock transferred from another dealer by driving it on trade plates, rather than it being delivered on a transporter. In those circumstances I would expect the selling dealer to inform the customer that was what was happening and get their agreement.
  • h901
    h901 Posts: 163 Forumite
    usually 50 miles is the max to be classed as delivery mileage
    if it has a number plate then it's definetly pre-registered
    pre-registered cars are usually cheaper though
  • vikingaero
    vikingaero Posts: 10,920 Forumite
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    To be honest local dealers really irritate me. Most of our cars are bought through Drive the Deal or Broadspeed. The dealers are generally based in the Midlands/oop North and your only contact is by telephone.

    I've walked out of local dealers many times over the snide/untruthful comments and gone an ordered online. When I speak to the salesmen introduced through the online brokers I tell them what I do and do not want - end of transaction.
    The man without a signature.
  • vansboy
    vansboy Posts: 6,483 Forumite
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    Technically the vehicle is 'new', if it has yet to be registered & has zero miles.

    Most people would expect less than 25miles, to be still 'new', while a vehicle is moved around compounds & onto ships/transporters.

    At 200 miles, it will still be 'new' & unregistered, with delivery mileage recorded - as it will have been road driven (on trade plates) to & from wherever it was & is now.

    There isn't legal definition of 'new', other than this, so expect a bit more of a discount, perhaps, if you wat the car, or look for another - there are one or two out there, currently!!

    VB
  • xycom1
    xycom1 Posts: 784 Forumite
    All of the brand new cars that I've had have always had around 9 to 15 miles on. It shouldn't be any more than test driving at the factory, minor logistics of moving it from compound to transporter/ferry/compound then from the dealers to the gas station and back again to road test.

    But then I would never buy a 'brand new' car that wasn't a factory order.
  • goldspanners
    goldspanners Posts: 5,910 Forumite
    i know for a fact that ford allow up to 250 miles on a new car, any more then it is not new.
    most will have less than this,but there will be some that need to be moved between dealerships and will be driven instead of on the back of a transporter.
    i think every different manufacturer will have different tolerances on this.
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