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Public-private wage divide gets 50% wider
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Sir_Humphrey wrote: »Having a functioning government tends to lead to having a better economy. Look at Somalia if you disagree. .
Or Iceland, Ireland.:rolleyes:0 -
I usually love your posts but couldn't let this one get away.
DittoYou seem to be arguing that civil servants or teachers who do vastly more important, responsible or skilled jobs than bank clerks should be paid the same. Why?
Some teachers, yes. Most civil servants - too many to do one job.
I do think their pay should have been increased. I watched my mother struggle on her low HEO salary, but with that increase in salary should come the reduction of the generous pension that the low paid civil servants have.Secondly, you seem to be arguing that - and I do find this bit incredible - that 'civil servants don't generate any income for the country'.
They don't generate any money. Teachers may teach the skills that allow private business to grow on and make money from a business, but they don't make a profit for the country. Their salary is paid for by the private workers.
My maths teachers taught me good maths skills. My university lecturers added to my skills at a higher level. The firm I work for has enhanced those skills and used them to make their business money and in turn pay towards the public purse.RENTING? Have you checked to see that your landlord has permission from their mortgage lender to rent the property? If not, you could be thrown out with very little notice.
Read the sticky on the House Buying, Renting & Selling board.0 -
See my earlier post on far inferior public sector salaries for EQUIVALENT jobs.
There is no such thing as an equivalent job. Good grief, my local authority has had consultants in for 6 YEARS trying to come up with a pay structure and it still can't agree how much the jobs are worth.
Afraid the best comparator has to be averages.0 -
Maybe everyone should have low wages. The country will be much richer then.
Politics is not the art of the possible. It consists of choosing between the disastrous and the unpalatable. J. K. Galbraith0 -
Sir_Humphrey wrote: »Having a functioning government tends to lead to having a better economy. Look at Somalia if you disagree. Even by the sometimes low standard of MSE, that is a very stupid comment. I'm not going to mince my words any more.
Our economy is shot! This government have landed us in a lot of debt.
I am curious to know why you think you should have the high salaries that civil servants now earn and still be given the generous pensions that the low paid civil servants had?RENTING? Have you checked to see that your landlord has permission from their mortgage lender to rent the property? If not, you could be thrown out with very little notice.
Read the sticky on the House Buying, Renting & Selling board.0 -
You haven't shown that at all. All you've done is compare two jobs, which are totally unlike each other in every way.
Look again. I compared like with like for 1972 and 2008.RENTING? Have you checked to see that your landlord has permission from their mortgage lender to rent the property? If not, you could be thrown out with very little notice.
Read the sticky on the House Buying, Renting & Selling board.0 -
Millions of salaries versus Millions of Salaries, must have SOME statistical validity.
Otherwise every piece of Government/Council planning based on a census/survey/democratic process, is not only flawed, but totally doomed to failure.
Oh, I get it, now...0 -
In Somalia, the people are shot. Be careful what you wish for.MissMoneypenny wrote: »Our economy is shot!Politics is not the art of the possible. It consists of choosing between the disastrous and the unpalatable. J. K. Galbraith0 -
Sir_Humphrey wrote: »If you you want public services, the renumeration has to at least be vaguely in line with market rates.
I agree with you on that. Civil servants pensions are above market rates now.RENTING? Have you checked to see that your landlord has permission from their mortgage lender to rent the property? If not, you could be thrown out with very little notice.
Read the sticky on the House Buying, Renting & Selling board.0 -
Sir_Humphrey wrote: »If you you want public services, the renumeration has to at least be vaguely in line with market rates.
If that were the case, would you not agree that deferred pay (ie pension) should also be vaguely in line with that market rates.0
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