Kids hols during termtime - 10 days max ?

TurnaroundSue

gregg1 wrote:

TurnaroundSue wrote:

This is starting to resemble Groundhog Day!!

Can I just clarify something? You say "to deny them an annual holiday would have a detrimental effect on them". And yet, strangely, you don't appear to think that denying them two weeks education on an annual basis has a detrimental effect on them. I am not missing your point, I understand entirely, I just don't agree with it. Most kids who go abroad with the school, go once during their entire education - thats a bit different from two weeks annually(although, as I said before, I would not allow my child to go on a trip abroad with the school but again, I have my own personal reasons for that) My OH works a 60 - 70 hour week and this has a detrimental effect on our kids too - it happens to a lot of people in this day and age.

I still maintain I DID touch a nerve by disagreeing with you but lets just agree to leave it at that - we both have our opinions and are not going to change them

The highlighted quote from you Gregg1 was posted yesterday and yet you still continue to sit there and judge me - I feel that you are like a dog with a bone and until I agree with you, then you will not let go!

For your information schools do not go on trips abroad ONCE in their education - my son's school went skiing last year and a letter came home this week to go again next year!!! He also had the chance to go in year 6 also (last year of primary school) and I know for a fact that there is a trip when he is in year 10 - so this is not the case as far as my son's school is concerned!!!

I also am not complaining about the amount of hours my OH works, just stating a fact - and to be able to spend some precious time as a family this means taking our kids out of school.

As previously stated I think we really need to put this bat and ball debate to bed and agree to disagree - you do what YOU feel is right for your family and I will do what I feel is right for mine!

rdwarr

Becles wrote:

I think generally life has changed and holidays are now classed as a necessity rather than a luxury.

...only for those who can afford them. The assumption that everybody goes on holiday is for those who choose to believe the "never had it so good" spin from the Government rather than take a look at what's really happening in the darker corners of the Country.
This forum cannot hope to represent those who can't because they're unlikely to be on the Internet.

pipkin71

as Sue said, maybe this is one of those subjects that's best left agreeing to differ. Those that do will and those that don't won't - if that makes any sense???

Regards
Pipkin

stashmycash

I have only read a few posts on this thread as it is so long, but can someone tell me what is the law about this?

pipkin71

Some schools allow parents to take their children out of school for up to 10 authorised days - not specifically for holidays, although many parents [myself included] take these days off for going on holiday.

Some people on this thread see nothing wrong in this, others feel that it is not right and holidays should not be taken during term time - hence the debate [and an enjoyable one at that!]

It does seem to appear that it depends on the school whether or not they allow parents to take up to 10 days for holidays etc.

VeryTrying_2

ejones999 wrote:

Sorry Becles but this is a load of tripe!
In fact you came across as a snob.
Every one has a right to a holiday whether they go abroad or take it at home is up to them!

If by holiday you mean nights spent away from one's own home (rather than just time off work/school), then I totally disagree with you. Nobody has a RIGHT to a holiday. Using taxpayers' money to help with treatment for the sick, home assistance for exhausted carers, education for children, is acceptable (and necessary). Providing everybody with their rights to a HOLIDAY is not.

But then I have difficulty with the official definition of poverty in this country. In many (even most) other countries of the world people would think they had died and gone to heaven if they were able to live at the UK definition of poverty. For them enough food to eat would be good, never mind even having an education from which to take a holiday.

And if I've misunderstood you. Sorry. Rant over.

Rachie_B

i can also say that there is definitely more than 1 trip away (orffered to them) in a child education (in schools here anyway )

my son is off for 3 days later this month (hes in yr 5) then next yr he has the opportunity to go again and im sure numerous times in secondary school what with french / german exchanges / skiiing trips etc etc

Rachie_B

gregg1 wrote:

Are you kidding? That is only £200 per person for a fortnight abroad in the main weeks - thats a good deal (and she makes sure her kids don't miss out on their education either!!)

we must be stingy then

we never go away for more than one week away at a time so 1k for one week is a lot IMO

FWIW i dont care what YOU or anyone else thinks about my son "missing out on his education" for all of 3 days :rolleyes: <sigh>

i work in his school so i know how well hes doing ,hes just had his parents meeting and got all 2s (excellent) in effort and attainment

if he were struggling then no i prob wouldnt take him out of school if i thought his work would suffer as a result

i always ask for extra work when i know we are going to be away but more often than not the teachers say no its fine he will catch up etc and like i say its 5 days at the most hes absent from school for

and its not a "whole load of work for them to set JUST for my child " (or whoever is off at a particular time !!) as its all planned termly so they know in advance what they will be doing in what week

Rachie_B

pipkin71 wrote:

There are families that cannot afford to go on hols at any time of year - I have a friend with an 8 year old who has never been able to go anywhere since her child was born, and the only way the child gets to see the beach is on the annual school day trip to the seaside. That is a shame.

That doesn't mean that I should not take my children on holiday just because others cant. It also doesn't mean that if I am able to get permission to take my children away for a week during term time, I should say "no thanks, I'd much rather pay double / triple the cost during school hols!" To me, that doesn't make sense

Regards
Pipkin xxxxx

totally agree

why should i feel guilty because "millions of UK familes cant afford a holiday either in hols or during term time" :rolleyes:

rdwarr

Rachie_B wrote:

totally agree

why should i feel guilty because "millions of UK familes cant afford a holiday either in hols or during term time" :rolleyes:

You shouldn't. Leave it to people with a conscience :rolleyes: