Unions protest because contractors are using foreign workers at power station.

hethmar

Oh, and it was the Italians who rounded up the Romanians and sent them packing wasnt it?

domcastro

Good on them!! I fully support their action. Hopefully Universities will follow!! Though I doubt it because the people in charge are all foreign

amcluesent

"Nuclear workers join strikes wave

Contractors at two nuclear plants have walked out in support of protests over the use of foreign labour, in the latest of a wave of unofficial strikes.

The walk-outs at Sellafield and Heysham came as talks were set to start over the dispute, which began at Total-owned Lindsey oil refinery, Lincolnshire.
Workers at Grangemouth oil refinery and power stations in Longannet, Warrington and Staythorpe have also walked out."

Winter of discontent - lights going out by end of the week!

Any

I think it is absolutely obvious that people cannot always agree.
Some complete rubbish about fighting war for other nations etc.. I don't think that is a discussion for this kind of a thread, but for historics, especially as for example in second world war many countries joined in because if Hitler managed to take over so many countries then he would have army strong enough to take over the whole world... As I say, the issue of wars is too complicated and I don't understand why it was brought to this argument.

But enough of this.

Now when so many workers abandoned their jobs to go on strike, what do you think they will achieve? This is not a provoking question, it is a question to open new discusion.

In my point of view - the companies those people who joined the strike worked for were being loyal to their english employees and they walked out on them for days and days to go on strike. It must cost those companies hell of a lot of money - they still must complete their contracts, deliver services or goods or whatever... Don't you think that they are shooting themselves in a foot? I don't think that strike can solve much as the government cannot do anything without upseting the rest of the europe, but the jobs at their companies must be done and if they don't return to their jobs soon their employers will have to employ someone else - and wait, the only workers that are not striking are foreigners... I think they are playing dangerous game.

MissMoneypenny

They have just been saying on the news that some of the contractors in the UK are the same contracters in France and that the French government have built in clauses to protect the French, but the UK government didn't do this.

They also mentioned again how the uk government didn't bother to put number restrictions on migrant workers from certain countries, whereas other leading Euporean countries did.

hethmar

Any wrote: »

I think it is absolutely obvious that people cannot always agree.
Some complete rubbish about fighting war for other nations etc.. I don't think that is a discussion for this kind of a thread. As I say, the issue of wars is too complicated and I don't understand why it was brought to this argument.
.

I hope you arent using your employer's time to do these postings Any!

Well, if you had read the posting Any, you would see that a second generation immigrant had said that we had to have migrants here in 1950 to get our country back in order - because we were such useless workers apparently. The point being, we had to have them because so many of our own young men had died in the war. This is fact, that is why it was brought into the discussion. Why is it rubbish?

It seems that native Brits arent allowed to be proud of their own people on here? Yet currently so many people seem to want to marry into our bloodlines??

LOL, "the only ones not striking are foreigners" - dear oh dear. They strike in their homelands though

http://www.prol-position.net/nl/2005/02/poland_up
http://libcom.org/news/anarchists-poland-post-mail-strike-22112006
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6677707.stm

leveller2911

Any wrote: »

I think it is absolutely obvious that people cannot always agree.
Some complete rubbish about fighting war for other nations etc.. I don't think that is a discussion for this kind of a thread, but for historics, especially as for example in second world war many countries joined in because if Hitler managed to take over so many countries then he would have army strong enough to take over the whole world... As I say, the issue of wars is too complicated and I don't understand why it was brought to this argument.

But enough of this.

Now when so many workers abandoned their jobs to go on strike, what do you think they will achieve? This is not a provoking question, it is a question to open new discusion.

In my point of view - the companies those people who joined the strike worked for were being loyal to their english employees and they walked out on them for days and days to go on strike. It must cost those companies hell of a lot of money - they still must complete their contracts, deliver services or goods or whatever... Don't you think that they are shooting themselves in a foot? I don't think that strike can solve much as the government cannot do anything without upseting the rest of the europe, but the jobs at their companies must be done and if they don't return to their jobs soon their employers will have to employ someone else - and wait, the only workers that are not striking are foreigners... I think they are playing dangerous game.

So what happens in the your country when large companies can just throw aside there workforce in favour of a cheaper option???.What redress does the workforce have? do we just pack up and go home? or do we say to the big companies "we will work for less than the others?" incomes are cut to the bone or do we fight?...............
NO POSTER ON HERE WHO IS AGAINST THE STRIKE HAVE BOTHERED TO ANSWER MY ORIGINAL POST, WHY NOT? REASON: BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER...........
I will ask again: If a worker has a wife ,2 children,mortgage ,council tax to pay ,all with 1 wage how can he compete with 4 migrants living in 1 house all paying 25% of all the bills but earning 4x the wages.
If we carry on this route we will all be on the minimum wage , THEN how do we finance the health service,policing,education,the armed forces and NOT forgetting the ££millions we contribute to overseas aid...

Some have said " go and work in Italy,Spain,Portugal,Eastern Europe" etc....
Ok saying we all did, do you all honestly believe we can earn enough to support our families back here?????...All you wannabee economists out there need to do your maths a bit better because anyone with any common sense can see they just don't add up..

Finally any posters on here from Eatstern Europe have not had democracy long enough to understand what it really means, our democracy is FAR from a success BUT it is better than NOT having it.

Oh and also those who are playing the "race card and calling posters bigots for there views need to grow up and get a life.

Clearly I don't agree with some on here but I will always defend their rights to have a view.

Any

hethmar wrote: »

Well, if you had read the posting Any, you would see that a second generation immigrant had said that we had to have migrants here in 1950 to get our country back in order - because we were such useless workers apparently. The point being, we had to have them because so many of our own young men had died in the war. This is fact, that is why it was brought into the discussion. Why is it rubbish?

It seems that native Brits arent allowed to be proud of their own people on here? Yet currently so many people seem to want to marry into our bloodlines??

LOL, "the only ones not striking are foreigners" - dear oh dear. They strike in their homelands though

http://www.prol-position.net/nl/2005/02/poland_up

Actually, I wasn't reffering to the thread that was saying about loosing people in war, I was reffering to the "we were fighting to protect them and they soon forgot that".
I quite like you, and your argument with other people, however I think that you are just trying to put words into my mouth.

itsallagame_2

Any wrote: »

I think it is absolutely obvious that people cannot always agree.



Now when so many workers abandoned their jobs to go on strike, what do you think they will achieve? This is not a provoking question, it is a question to open new discusion.

In my point of view - the companies those people who joined the strike worked for were being loyal to their english employees and they walked out on them for days and days to go on strike. It must cost those companies hell of a lot of money - they still must complete their contracts, deliver services or goods or whatever... Don't you think that they are shooting themselves in a foot? I don't think that strike can solve much as the government cannot do anything without upseting the rest of the europe, but the jobs at their companies must be done and if they don't return to their jobs soon their employers will have to employ someone else - and wait, the only workers that are not striking are foreigners... I think they are playing dangerous game.

Its called solidarity, comrade.

. Oh, how dare they:D

hethmar

Any wrote: »

Actually, I wasn't reffering to the thread that was saying about loosing people in war, I was reffering to the "we were fighting to protect them and they soon forgot that".

Well, Ive looked but I cant see anyone saying those words on here.