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RichOneday_2

No worries, Sammy. You read several views and then choose your own course of action as with anything.

The concern that we have, which I think is why Becky was getting a little frustrated, is that new runners are not in a position to assess the potential long term lower limb damage of pushing demineralised bones through uncomfortable aches. It is a big enough risk anyway without adding to the risk factors.

The most common comment is along the lines of 'Magazine XYZ says you should start by run/walk/run.....so it must be right'. as though there is no other way.

It is not of any benefit to me to 'sell ' one method over another, but I have to say that when my own legs are on the line, as they were in Sept/Oct when I couldn't run a mile, then there is no way I would entertain the idea of run/walk/run. You need to build bone density to handle the rigours of training workloads later.

becky_rtw

You are NOT slow, if you are slow, so I am I since I have run a comparable wava time

run/walk annoys me because of exactly that though - it says to everyone 'oh its fine to start running even if you really unfit' when in reality it isnt - take it slowly and you'll progress much faster later on...and it says running is easy - it isnt - its very very tough to improve - but if you put the work in you get the results - Uk and Rich prove that

If you want to get faster Sammy you need to put in a consistent training effort of about 20-30 miles a week (about 40 miles a week if you want to do a marathon) consisting of a mix of running - slow runs, long runs, speedwork and hill work - chuck all that in the right mix and you'll be faster in no time - which in running terms is about 6 months

Bear in mind it takes about 6 marathons to get to your fastest speed which even in the rare event that are never injured would be 2 a year so three years from your first one with consistent and increasing training...

becky_rtw

HAHAHA cross post = snap...

Sorry I am grumpy today all!

sammy115

RichOneday wrote: »

The concern that we have, which I think is why Becky was getting a little frustrated, is that new runners are not in a position to assess the potential long term lower limb damage of pushing demineralised bones through uncomfortable aches. It is a big enough risk anyway without adding to the risk factors.

The most common comment is along the lines of 'Magazine XYZ says you should start by run/walk/run.....so it must be right'. as though there is no other way.

I can see why Becky gets frustrated.. If I had known of the dangers I perhaps wouldn't have attempted the run/walk method.....so its more a question of education that there is another method out there.....this thread does that admirably.

sammy115

becky_rtw wrote: »

You are NOT slow, if you are slow, so I am I since I have run a comparable wava time

run/walk annoys me because of exactly that though - it says to everyone 'oh its fine to start running even if you really unfit' when in reality it isnt - take it slowly and you'll progress much faster later on...and it says running is easy - it isnt - its very very tough to improve - but if you put the work in you get the results - Uk and Rich prove that

If you want to get faster Sammy you need to put in a consistent training effort of about 20-30 miles a week (about 40 miles a week if you want to do a marathon) consisting of a mix of running - slow runs, long runs, speedwork and hill work - chuck all that in the right mix and you'll be faster in no time - which in running terms is about 6 months

Bear in mind it takes about 6 marathons to get to your fastest speed which even in the rare event that are never injured would be 2 a year so three years from your first one with consistent and increasing training...

SIX!!! best start the consistent training now....

and bless you Becky for comparing me to you in the slowness stakes but wasn't your comparable WAVA in a bloomin marathon...the only reason I managed yesterday was I knew that the race would be over in another ten minutes and I wouldn't die before the end...not sure I could do that consistently in a marthon...not yet anyway:D

sammy115

becky_rtw wrote: »

HAHAHA cross post = snap...

Sorry I am grumpy today all!

and you are NOT grumpy - passionate about your sport...nothing wrong with that

RichOneday_2

I hope its not 6 marathons to get to your best!:o:o;)


(I'm hoping you meant 'at least' 6? (Fingers crossed)):p:p

becky_rtw

sammy115 wrote: »

SIX!!! best start the consistent training now....

and bless you Becky for comparing me to you in the slowness stakes but wasn't your comparable WAVA in a bloomin marathon...the only reason I managed yesterday was I knew that the race would be over in another ten minutes and I wouldn't die before the end...not sure I could do that consistently in a marthon...not yet anyway:D

Ahh but that can be remedied with some distance training - if you already have the speed :D

I never really got time to post this before but I actually had a really rough patch at 6 miles in the marathon and lost my pace dramatically from there till 18 miles - I only got through by telling myself - just 10 more minutes, just 10 more minutes - it got better by the time I saw everyone at mile 23 though and I was soo ecstatic when I saw my friends and family I ran back to blub on them and lost my 4:30 :rolleyes::rolleyes: - it was sooo worth it though and next time will be even better

sammy115

so for twelve miles you ran on 'another ten mins' that is seriously impressive.....

becky_rtw

RichOneday wrote: »

I hope its not 6 marathons to get to your best!:o:o;)


(I'm hoping you meant 'at least' 6? (Fingers crossed)):p:p

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:yeah yours is gone sweetie make way for the net generation (ur Uk time to step in ) :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Yeah sorry six to peak (now I'm wondering if its six years and 12 maras - help my brain is broken :eek:) but obviously you can maintain that from there so you'll need another five to peak this time anyway wont you??:p