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  • I think you will find that it is not 'lone parents' that people have a problem with, it is dishonest benefits claimants. There are plenty of dishonest couples out there too, just as there are plenty of honest lone parents.

    The way I see it, if you are doing nothing wrong and holding your head up high, why on earth do you need to get so cross??
  • krisskross
    krisskross Posts: 7,677 Forumite
    jennie09 wrote: »
    well i knew my instincts were right from the start you sad people must just hang around on here waiting to slate off every lone parent that dares put a post on here, 3 replies in less than what 5 mins, the first person didnt even bother reading my message properly, i only put post on initially asking for help then all of a sudden you get all the stuck up people posting snotty comments, you basically brand all lone parents the same its obvious i can hold my head up as i know i am not like that at all !

    Well if you pass the ESA medical then you will have no problems will you and it won't matter what people think.
  • healy
    healy Posts: 5,292 Forumite
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    krisskross wrote: »
    Getting DLA doesn't mean you can't work and I would have thought nothing at all to do with ESA or IS on grounds of disability.

    People who receive any rate of DLA are then entitled to the disability premium with their Income Support.
  • The way I see it, if you are doing nothing wrong and holding your head up high, why on earth do you need to get so cross??[/quote]

    Because these theads always harp on about the "disabled" and "lone parents" being scrongers and fakes and we don't get threads about single and 2 parent families that are sitting at home on the dole. The goverment are the same pick on those that are struggling as it is lets make them feel they want to put a bullet in their brain because they are made to feel like society hates them. The fact is those who get upset by all this are the genuine people, those who truly are robbing the benefit system carry on without a shed of guilt.
  • scooby1001 wrote: »
    Because these theads always harp on about the "disabled" and "lone parents" being scrongers and fakes and we don't get threads about single and 2 parent families that are sitting at home on the dole. The goverment are the same pick on those that are struggling as it is lets make them feel they want to put a bullet in their brain because they are made to feel like society hates them. The fact is those who get upset by all this are the genuine people, those who truly are robbing the benefit system carry on without a shed of guilt.

    There are plenty of threads about 'tax-evaders' and 'fat cat business owners'

    I run a business and I don't get all cross about them, because I am not one of them.

    I do, however like to put my opinion across when I see someone wanting to onto DLA when they are clearly well enough to work, but just dont want to.

    I dont begridge one penny of my tax money going to someone who deserves it, but I am sure that you can understand how frustrating it is to work your socks off and actually end up with less money than someone who doesnt work at all.
  • I do understand that people don't like to think that people are getting more money by not working than working but the fact is you don't know the personal facts of peoples lives and it is easy to feel hard done by. Even my own family don't really understand even though i have had 2 near death and many times in hosp. They see the face you put on it and think you magicly become ok as soon as you leave hosp so i can understand where some people come from but it does make me and many others feel that they are not worthy to live if they can't work. The funny thing is a know of someone who is now retired and has never worked due to the same heart condition i have got and has not been in hosp as much as me but he says in his time NOBODY EVER made him feel that he should be out working and was a fraud. I do think it is a recent thing encouraged by the goverment and programmes like "on the fiddle".
  • jennie09
    jennie09 Posts: 1,236 Forumite
    well said scooby even the posts above are still trying to turn it around onto me being a lone parent too right i will get cross, no matter what i say there is someting nasty said back in return, almost trying to imply that i am worried about going for a esa medical, in other words just trying to avoid work i know with the situation i am in i csnt work and believe me i would love too i hate not being able to work becaause i always have done ALWAYS i haver known for a while i could have prob claimed extra money but because of my situation have decided to leave it until my next app with lone parent adviser, she has already told me i will be switched onto esa no prob as my details are already on the system, i really dont care about money if i had i would have claimed extra a while back i certainly dont have to justify myself to the lone parent haters on here !
    It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.
  • Jennie09. Try not to take it personally. I know it is hard because forums like this always get these sort of threads. Last year after reading threads like this and programmes like on the fiddle i cancelled my benefits and the benefit people rung my doctors saying what i had tried to do and i was told my money was going to carry on regardless(in fact the dla man told my dr nobody writes asking for their benefit to be stopped so he knew i must be a bit unwell) But sometimes it feels like you can't win what-ever you do. It is upsetting when you know you are genuine but we are all only human i suppose. You know your circumstances and what you are capable of doing. It is more important that you are able to look after you children than having a job and them and your health suffering. People who don't have disabilites to deal with day in day out do not understand and will probably never will.
  • space_rider
    space_rider Posts: 1,741 Forumite
    I think you will find that it is not 'lone parents' that people have a problem with, it is dishonest benefits claimants. There are plenty of dishonest couples out there too, just as there are plenty of honest lone parents.

    The way I see it, if you are doing nothing wrong and holding your head up high, why on earth do you need to get so cross??

    Sometimes I can get really cross the way lone parents are slated. ie their children won`t amount to anything. Mine all did extremely well with GCSE`s. Lone parents don`t want to work. I worked as soon as I my daughter with a chronic illness got a place in a school nursery. Private nurseries wouldn`t have her, school ones don`t have a choice. I end up with so much stress working and trying to fit around her illness and hospital appointments. Just learned that my manager is leaving in March and I`ll probably end up with a power hungry manager who won`t be as sympathetic. I know I`m not alone as I have a friend with chidlren with chronic illness that works too. I tend to type my annoyance and then just delete it as I don`t have anything to prove and I know how my life is and that I could genuinely be a stay at home mum because of my daughters needs. But I need to be more than just Mum for a few hours of the day. Most of the mothers of children with my daughters illness are on antidepressants. I believe its`s because they live and breathe their childrens illness whereas for a few hours of the day I am someone else.
  • NASA_2
    NASA_2 Posts: 5,571 Forumite
    I wasnt having a go at you Jennie. I was relaying experiences of how I have seen people playing the system.

    There are more than enough threads on here about how apalling the staff that aministrate the benefits system are so please dont feel that you are being victimised. People like me, who genuinely try to help customers, get lumped into the same group as those who show no interest in the person they are supposed to be helping.

    It makes me feel like !!!! at times.
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