Why Labour is the Can Do Nothing Party

Cat695

matthewcb wrote: »

Yet you'll still find a fair chunk of the population (18% here: http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=1370265) who will vote for him again...

I like to think of it as 82% won't

Kenny4315

SGE1 wrote: »

Not everyone lives in the same world as you do. Your terms suggest that from when you're standing, Britain is a crappy dump, one where everything is now consistently worse than it was 11 years ago.

Britain is a bit of a crappy dump, let's face facts. It economy is scr&wed, prisons are full, housing is in turmoil, currency is in a mess, the benefits system is a joke, the country is full of CHAV's and work-shy lay-about youths would need a kick up the arze, the NHS is going downhill and is a burden on the middle class. The criminal justice system is a joke, etc, etc.

Weathers nice though.....:D

globalds

Cannon_Fodder wrote: »

Equally, some of us were around the PREVIOUS time that Labour screwed up, "suffered" (to differing degrees) while the Tories tried (at times woefully, admittedly) to put things back on a decent footing, succeeded in the end, only for GB to come along and jump on the bandwagon, milk it for a while, then gradually turn the whole economy to mush again.

TWICE bitten thrice shy.

But the Torries were voted out ...By a landslide
Labour have been guilty of getting just as caught up in this bubble as most of the rest of the world.
I think in hindsight even Gordon would have done things differently.
But I can't think off a party that hasn't left office hated ...or they wouldn't lose office .
To be honest the Torries have kept themselves out of office We had Redwood ,Hague ,Duncan-Smith & Howard .
It is not just the manifesto .
I even doubt the backbone of Cameron ...

benood

Dan: wrote: »

Good point chucky.

It seems a lot of people around here have short memorys of when the Tories were last in power. Either that or they weren't born back then

When the Tories were last in power - just the phrase brings back happy memories - freedom, opportunity, clarity, common sense. It's all relative of course:

If Gordon had had to try and get through this parliament with a 22 majority (as Major had to in 1992) then I hardly dare think about how grim the current crisis would seem.

chucky

globalds wrote: »

But the Torries were voted out ...By a landslide
Labour have been guilty of getting just as caught up in this bubble as most of the rest of the world.
I think in hindsight even Gordon would have done things differently.
But I can't think off a party that hasn't left office hated ...or they wouldn't lose office .
To be honest the Torries have kept themselves out of office We had Redwood ,Hague ,Duncan-Smith & Howard .
It is not just the manifesto .
I even doubt the backbone of Cameron ...

very, very true.

how could Cameron govern this country - if you think Brown is bad... how would the country be with Cameron!!

not that the tories are bad - Cameron would be a horendous choice of Prime Minister

scousethife

chucky wrote: »

well however bad Labour are, they seem to be still ahead of the Conservatives in the polls, even with the shambles Labour has created. it's a reflection of how bad the tories actually are and their lack of policies.

I know, what is that all about?

My satnav has better ideas the the tories.

A wheelie bin full of honey roast ham could beat the labour party at the next election.

chucky

scousethife wrote: »

I know, what is that all about?

My satnav has better ideas the the tories.

A wheelie bin full of honey roast ham could beat the labour party at the next election.

don't forget to chain your bike up when you go shopping at Tescos - the man is a bigger clown than Brown

maninthestreet

globalds wrote: »

But the Torries were voted out ...By a landslide
Labour have been guilty of getting just as caught up in this bubble as most of the rest of the world.
I think in hindsight even Gordon would have done things differently.
But I can't think off a party that hasn't left office hated ...or they wouldn't lose office .
To be honest the Torries have kept themselves out of office We had Redwood ,Hague ,Duncan-Smith & Howard .
It is not just the manifesto .
I even doubt the backbone of Cameron ...

Redwood has never been leader of the Conservative party.
Hague was voted leader too early in is career.
Howard reduced Labour's majority by about 100.

scousethife

Pobby wrote: »

Was rather hoping you guys would vote for me in the next general. The Pobby Party..... has a certain ring to it!

Sounds more like a hair cut though mate

Still, you get my vote

leveller2911

SGE1 wrote: »

Not everyone lives in the same world as you do. Your terms suggest that from when you're standing, Britain is a crappy dump, one where everything is now consistently worse than it was 11 years ago. Hypothetically, let's imagine that's the case. Even then, you assume that everyone agrees with you that Labour are the sole cause of all these woes.

So that's two big IFs. As far as I'm concerned, the improvements over the last 11 years far outweigh the negative impacts of this Government: I don't recognise your depiction of the UK. I could never bring myself to say, in all seriousness, "look what's happened to this country" - as if this short bout of economic problems (which, in the grand scheme of things, isn't a big deal) is the worst that could possibly have befallen a nation (you know, forget genocides, world wars etc).

And then, where there has been deterioration, I don't think the Government has is necessarily to blame - sometimes, but not always.

You can convince yourself that all the people who would still vote for the incumbents are stupid - but then you'd be calling an awful lot of people stupid. Or you could just accept that maybe the way you see things isn't the universally acknowledged truth.

All you have done is tried to "spin" my obsevations.

Why does my view suggest that from where im standing Britain is a "crappy dump" PLEASE EXPLAIN..

How do I assume that everyone agrees with my views???
From my postings where do I say that "Labour are the sole of all our woes"..

If you bother to read it I have NO ties to ANY political party, I think that by there nature they are corrupt, they cant agree on the colour of sh1te, they spend all there time (similar to you) in "spinning" each others policies and views.
Why do WE as a nation keep voting in people who are there to "promote" themselves, They nearly always get far bigger pay rises than us, they have protected pensions, most promote the NHS but use private, tell us to drive greener cars and yet most drive 4x4,s or Gas guzzlers,I could go on ,but wont....

I still find it amazing we vote them in..... they feed us peanuts whilst get rich.....That is why I believe an MP should only serve 1 term(dont get a pension ,cant have directorships etc,they cant get too "comfy" in the job.Then its time for another person to have a go..They are there to serve US ... They forget that..

I respect your views , dont agree with them though.