Why Labour is the Can Do Nothing Party

prowla

I would much prefer a party that did nothing.
The Labour party have tinkered with everything, and broken most of it.

handful

toomany wrote: »

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_7A-I97b6bw&feature=channel_page

And your point is :rolleyes:

SGE1

leveller2911 wrote: »

We could sit here and debate the pro,s and cons of the previous Tory government and whether they actually did more harm than good , BUT im slowly losing all confidence in the British public when I see people actually go on TV or post on this forun and say they would vote Labour in the next general election....

You wont find anyone more in favour of FREE speech BUT !!!!!! people get a grip and see what Labour have done to this country.

(Im not a member of any political party,In fact I think the party system of government is flawed and can never actually deliver .At the end of the day they can't agree on the colour of sh1te .)


ARE WE A NATION OF MASOCHISTS ???????:mad:

Not everyone lives in the same world as you do. Your terms suggest that from when you're standing, Britain is a crappy dump, one where everything is now consistently worse than it was 11 years ago. Hypothetically, let's imagine that's the case. Even then, you assume that everyone agrees with you that Labour are the sole cause of all these woes.

So that's two big IFs. As far as I'm concerned, the improvements over the last 11 years far outweigh the negative impacts of this Government: I don't recognise your depiction of the UK. I could never bring myself to say, in all seriousness, "look what's happened to this country" - as if this short bout of economic problems (which, in the grand scheme of things, isn't a big deal) is the worst that could possibly have befallen a nation (you know, forget genocides, world wars etc).

And then, where there has been deterioration, I don't think the Government has is necessarily to blame - sometimes, but not always.

You can convince yourself that all the people who would still vote for the incumbents are stupid - but then you'd be calling an awful lot of people stupid. Or you could just accept that maybe the way you see things isn't the universally acknowledged truth.

climbingoutoftheabyss

Of course there are millions of people who will vote Labour.

Just think of all those five a day coordinators, street football managers, quango leaders and then add the five million that live off benefits and you've a ready-made army for Gordon 'the superman who ended boom and bust' Brown.

The numbers working in the public sector and live off benefits is creeping closer and closer to over 50% of the working population - Brown pays them, Brown tells them who to vote.

Cannon_Fodder

Dan: wrote: »

Good point chucky.

It seems a lot of people around here have short memorys of when the Tories were last in power. Either that or they weren't born back then

Equally, some of us were around the PREVIOUS time that Labour screwed up, "suffered" (to differing degrees) while the Tories tried (at times woefully, admittedly) to put things back on a decent footing, succeeded in the end, only for GB to come along and jump on the bandwagon, milk it for a while, then gradually turn the whole economy to mush again.

TWICE bitten thrice shy.

Cannon_Fodder

SGE1 wrote: »

Or you could just accept that maybe the way you see things isn't the universally acknowledged truth.

That cuts both ways.

1echidna

Cannon_Fodder wrote: »

That cuts both ways.

Indeed, but it was the poster he was referring to who was suggesting it cut only one way.

maninthestreet

SGE1 wrote: »

Not everyone lives in the same world as you do. Your terms suggest that from when you're standing, Britain is a crappy dump, one where everything is now consistently worse than it was 11 years ago. Hypothetically, let's imagine that's the case. Even then, you assume that everyone agrees with you that Labour are the sole cause of all these woes.

So that's two big IFs. As far as I'm concerned, the improvements over the last 11 years far outweigh the negative impacts of this Government: I don't recognise your depiction of the UK. I could never bring myself to say, in all seriousness, "look what's happened to this country" - as if this short bout of economic problems (which, in the grand scheme of things, isn't a big deal) is the worst that could possibly have befallen a nation (you know, forget genocides, world wars etc).

And then, where there has been deterioration, I don't think the Government has is necessarily to blame - sometimes, but not always.

You can convince yourself that all the people who would still vote for the incumbents are stupid - but then you'd be calling an awful lot of people stupid. Or you could just accept that maybe the way you see things isn't the universally acknowledged truth.

Short bout of economic problems? We're facing the worst recession since the end of the WW2, which indepedent analysts predict will hit the UK worse than other countries, mainly due to the financial mis-management of Brown himself. We're engaged in a war we cannot win in Afghanistan, an illegal occupation of Iraq, both of which have made worse the problems they were supposed to solve. Our freedoms we have fought for and enjoyed for centuries are being wittled away on the alter of 'fighting terrorism and terrorists' who, we are warned, want to take away those freedoms.

Kenny4315

Mr Clown & Hs Darling make Mr & Mrs Tadpole look like the nobel prize winners for economics.

THEY ARE TOTALLY AND UTTERLY USELESS. THERE IS NO WORD IN THE ENLGISH LAUGUAGE THAT COULD DESCRIBE SUCH PURE TOTAL AND UTTER INCOMPETENCE.

handful

SGE1 wrote: »

as if this short bout of economic problems (which, in the grand scheme of things, isn't a big deal) is the worst that could possibly have befallen a nation (you know, forget genocides, world wars etc).

Isn't a big deal??? So are you saying that until GB decides to try his hand at a bit of genocide we can all be thankful for his contribution?