Child Maintenance (CSA) questions (merged)

kelloggs36

Having her income included is only likely to have an impact if she has children as he gets no allowance in the first part of the calculation thus making his notional assessment higher than his actual assessment as allowances for these children are only given in the Protected Income part which can reduce his assessment because he has to be allowed a certain amount to live on which is based upon the household circumstances. If he has to pay full maintenance (his notional assessment) he may be left with a figure below the minimum, so his assessment will reduce to allow him this minimum figure. When there are no children in the NRP's household, the affect is usually none whatsoever as the partner's income is added to his when calculating the protected income which will normally mean that he can easily afford to pay his notional assessment as there are less allowances to increase his protected income. The interim assessment is likely to be the same in these circumstances. Therefore, when a new partner has children it is always best to provide the info as it could reduce the assessment - his assessment can NEVER be increased because of a partner's income EXCEPT in the case of apportioning housing costs.

kelloggs36

Sorry about my extremely long sentence!

kelloggs36

In this case the partner's details are unlikely to make any difference at all unless that Departure is applied for.

aMeLia'S~MuMMY

aMeLia'S~MuMMY wrote:

Also either having his partners income included in the assessment or an IMA ( Interim maintenance assessment for not providing said info ) may make some difference too, but not always.

:A

Didn't read re; kids correctly , I now know they have none in household (except once a week)

:A

jocymru75

Hi all!
Got through to csa this morning (1st time as well)!
Internet connection was down though,:eek: so gutted didn't have all this helpful advice to hand
What they said was this:
1~ They couldn't take into account any profit/money he has made on other properties, unless he is gaining interest on it. (Bet he knew this and has put the money into someone else's account) Is there a way of proving this?
2~ They will look into gaining information on the earnings of the new partner, to asses his high housing costs.
3~ His income will be looked at again. (it hasn't been re-assessed since August) Why send me out info, and get me riled up when it hasn't been re-assessed?
Well, i'll hopefully here something from them in the next month. Fingers crossed! Thankyou for the advice! Keep you posted!!

newcook

can I ask a personal question? do you have a new partner and does he live with you?? if so have you informed social services of the extra income or does that not get taken into account???

jocymru75

newcook wrote:

can I ask a personal question? do you have a new partner and does he live with you?? if so have you informed social services of the extra income or does that not get taken into account???

Hi there!

Yes, I have a great (not so new) partner. I asked the csa when we moved in together how it would affect my csa, but they don't include any of his income, just claiming from the absent parent.

tevangelynne

jocymru75 wrote:

Hi there!

Yes, I have a great (not so new) partner. I asked the csa when we moved in together how it would affect my csa, but they don't include any of his income, just claiming from the absent parent.

hi i havent had a penny from csa / ex since the day my husband left 6 years old . my daughters are 7/9 ..
i just wondered if they dont take your partners earnings into account why do they take your exs new partner .. that doesnt seem fair

jocymru75

Hi tevangelynne,
I'm not sure why my new partners earnings don't count, but he does pay alot more than his fare share in the family and towards the children even though they aren't his. We both work very hard for our money and like the majority of couples struggle on a day-to day basis even though we have a very strict budget, and i am not after easy money from the ex, but what is rightfully the children's money. He has the right to support his children to the best of his ability, which on many occasions and at present doesnt.

In respect to the ex partners, new partner, they only look into her earnings as they both share the housing costs(like most couples), but his housing costs exceed the amount for two people living in the property.

Basically he has tried to say:
1. Only he is living at the address(which was found out to be a lie)
2. His income is far too low and he couldn't afford to keep himself let alone two children.(again found out to be a lie, has a new partner, can afford a new car every year, go on holidays 2-3 times a year, build an extension to his already large house)

Have you tried or failed with csa yourself?

newcook

I haven't personally but my mom did when my dad left 21 years ago. my mom tried the CSA but they were as helpful as a chocolate teapot - luckily my mom and dad were able to sort out a private agreement where by me and my brother would stop with my dad every weekend (Sat morn til Sunday evening) my mom doesnt drive so my dad drove across town to pick us up/drop us off. when we got older and started secondary school we used to go to my dads from school on Friday til monday morn.
back then though single parents used to get a government grant of about £100 per child for school clothes. we were also entitled to free school dinners and I think I used to get something from the government towards my school bus pass.
from what I can gather this all changed (apart from the free dinners) when single parents wanted the cash instead of the grants etc so they altered the benefits which is a shame as they are now worse off.