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Child Maintenance (CSA) questions (merged)

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  • loobyloo0302
    loobyloo0302 Posts: 157 Forumite
    "Shouldn't have children if not prepared to put a roof over their heads and food in their tummies.
    Children should not be a burden on the state"

    Relationships breakdown.. I'm sure their relationship wasn't in this state when they concieved the children, how was the OP supposed to know what his future held??? And so now, he should be run into the ground, made to live in his car whilst he's paying for a house for his ex to live in when it would be so easy for such as her to get council housing, HA, etc??? Not so easy on the flip side!

    Surely if his ex is not working then she is a burden on the state as she would be receiving benefits of some form, either for being a lone parent or for having low income/no income??

    I agree, resources could be better spent, but when you have difficult people such as this, yet more resources are wasted on supporting them due to parties being unreasonable.
  • Zara33
    Zara33 Posts: 5,441 Forumite
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    Shouldn't have children if not prepared to put a roof over their heads and food in their tummies.
    Children should not be a burden on the state. If it wasn't for people making claims as single parents then many elderly would get the care and medical treatment that they have paid National Health Stamps for throughout their working lives.
    Best way is to put up and shut up!
    What a load of tosh!
    Hit the snitch button!
    member #1 of the official warning clique.
    :D:j:D
    Feel the love baby!
  • kelloggs36
    kelloggs36 Posts: 7,712 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Heidi - that would be true in some cases but not this one. YOU try and sustain 2 homes on a single salary (unless you are rich of course and then it is possible - but for the majority of the population it is not).
  • Blonde_Bint
    Blonde_Bint Posts: 1,262 Forumite
    Heidi, i'm not having a go but you want to come and live in the world I live in it aint a bowl of cherries my duck. Though I do hear what your saying. Its just not workable some times.

    I think it should be harder for people to divorce and that when married no one should have affairs, :rotfl: sadly thats not going to happen either. But if it did there would be less of us on these forums:D

    we need to educate our children thats the way to go, its too late for us but try to get the kids to do as we say not as we did, good theory.
  • Taadaa
    Taadaa Posts: 2,113 Forumite
    Hi all. I have not received a payment from my ex husband for nearly two years because he hasn't been in work. So now son is going to secondary school and I asked him for a contribution to all the new gear he needs, and he said that I get money - which I don't. He says he told his benefits office that he needed a social payment to contribute, and they said that as he is on incapacity benefit, not job seeker's allowance, that the DSS should be paying the payments on his behalf. I get a letter every now and then saying that I am entitled to 0.00. He reckons he got a letter from them stating that he was in arrears with the payment.

    My question is does anyone know if the DSS should be paying it for him? I received about £80 a month for a little while, before that I got about £5.00 a week for several years. Any help appreciated.
    I have had many Light Bulb Moments. The trouble is someone keeps turning the bulb off :o

    1% over payments on cc 3.5/100 (March 2014)
  • I temporarily left my house due to wife’s abnormal behaviour, she later changed the locks. I solely own the house and bought before our marriage – although cant get in and out of the house for 4 months but still paying for mortgage for my house where she is living with our 2 children; in addition to the rent I am paying for a room I temporarily found (after spending few nights in the car), child maintenance (20%), personal loans, solicitors fees etc WHILE she is getting child benefit allowance, child tax credit, child maintenance, income support and living in my house for free. She is also sending me messages that I should take all my stuff away! I cant even afford a place just for myself where would I keep all my other belongings; which are certainly of value to me. I have now filed for the divorce (still in process).
    I am financially completely broken and don't know the solution to my problems. I hired a solicitor but struggling to meet their cost and fear I will have to proceed without them!! I work full time so no option of legal aid either.
    I heard that I may either ask her to pay me for the rent since the day I moved out OR apply for an eviction order.
    Could anyone please suggest:
    1.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]The procedure if I want to ask/apply for these myself (e.g. by writing to her solicitor or approaching court directly). If so;
    2.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]how long will it take;
    3.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]chances of me getting any success; and
    4.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]cost it would require.
    Your advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance
  • Hi All Sorry if this is in the wrong place it didnt state the new thread button so here goes.

    My ex wife and I have had a verbal agreement in place for child maintenance payments to be paid into her bank account from mine for 10 years, all as been well until i explained to her recently that i could no longer afford to pay her that amount due to no more over time at my work. She was fine with this at the time, but since she as gone behind my back to the CSA now there on my case asking for 3 times what i was paying previously. I have spoken to her and asked her to get them off my case which i know she can do if she wanted to do, but she is adamant that i am to pay this new amount, this will bankrupt me as i now have a new partner to support, and my outgoings have gone through the roof.

    I have not been able to take my two boys who are 16 and 13 anywhere for a whole 2 years due to the lack of money and i dont even do anything with them when they come to stay which is once every 3 weeks over the weekend. She on the other hand is taking two holidays pr year and as two full time incomes.

    My question is if we signed (i will look up) a court order at the time of our divorce which was 10 years ago staing that she can not touch my assets or go for child maintenance and signed for a verbal agreement can she pursue the csa route?
    Also to make matters worse she is threatning to take the boys to New Zealand where does leave me with the csa can she still claim the child support through the CSA?

    I dont mind paying for my children but what I do mind is paying her to live it up.
  • Fuzzyvision
    Fuzzyvision Posts: 4 Newbie
    edited 10 September 2009 at 3:38PM
    Firstly a written agreement is worth nothing, The csa have the remit and authority to overturn everything after 1993 (court orders prior to this cannot be overturned)

    You say they are charging you 3 times more than you were paying? Under the rules they can oly charge you based on your net income

    15% for 1 child
    20% for 2 children
    25% for 3 or more children,

    this is your take home pay, the only other thing they will deduct is pension payments so its simple to work out what you should be paying

    your income less tax, NI and Pension.

    If they are asking ridiculous sums they may have made an assessment based on what they believe to be correct, this happens if you have ot returned the forms they should have sent you. If you never recieved the forms (highly likely) then you can fax them details of your last 3 payslips etc and they should be able to do a correct assessment from this.

    As always with the CSA they are far better at beating the good fathers down who do pay rather than spend their time chasing fathers that dont bother.

    Good Luck


    Regards
  • so a Court Order from 1991, cannot be overturned?
  • If there are maintenance arrangements for a qualifying child, such as a maintenance order from the courts, the Child Support Agency may not be able to accept an application for a child maintenance calculation. This rule applies where there is:

    a written agreement between the parents for the non-resident parent to pay regular child maintenance made before 5th April 1993.
    a court order which requires the non-resident parent to pay regular maintenance for the qualifying child made before the date that the new scheme was introduced for new cases.
    court order which requires the non-resident parent to pay regular maintenance for the qualifying child made after the date that the new scheme was introduced for new cases, which has been in force for less than a year
    In these cases, parents who want to change the existing maintenance arrangements can ask the courts to look at how much should be due for the children.
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