Child Maintenance (CSA) questions (merged)

Zara33

I have never had a 0870 number for the csa

suebaker

I have been going back and forth to CSA tribunals for years. I have gone into debt as i had to get expert help. Its not worth it. Just giv ethe kids what you can and forget fighting. It will only put you under a load of stress and expense.
PS My ex does have some arrears to pay - the csa are taking it from him at £6 per week. I laughed when they told me - I would be 110 years old before he pays it all back!! Just get on with loving your kids and forget the csa. xx

salamjanab

kelloggs36 wrote: »

I can't see how the CSA doing any deduction of earnings itself would cause you to lose your job - it happens all the time!

You need to seek legal advice about your financial situation and the house. Good luck.

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I am drafting a letter to CSA. Please advise if the following letter is good enough or its better to edit. can you guess what questions and impact it may bring?

My salary has now reduced and I am paying for mortgage as well as rent. My ex never contributed anything nor paying rent at present. I need to repay all the loan i have which I borrowed to buy the house, household items and to meet day-to-day living. If I am forced to pay for any additional child maintenance other than what I am indirectly paying already (mortgage & repayment of loans) – this will result in the children becoming homeless as you may notice yourself that my current situation is not sustainable and every month I am going more and more into debts because I am supporting two households at present due to the unfortunate circumstances which are also causing severe mental distress. This may also result in the house being repossessed. [FONT=&quot]People I borrowed money from are now threatening to take legal action against me. [/FONT] Even in this difficult situation, I haven’t stopped paying for the mortgage etc only because my kids are staying there and I don’t want my children to be shelter less; but please appreciate that I still need to be able to live myself hence look forward for your kind and fair decision.


I work full time and study part time.

I am not getting any working tax credit or child tax credit or child benefits – which is directly going to my ex's account.

My Salary has reduced wef 1st June 2009. You have calculated based on Feb-April's salary.
I temporarily moved out from my house due to my wife’s abnormal behaviour and for my security. She later changed the locks. I never left to never come back but now I am homeless. I have temporarily found a place for which I am paying £500 rent. I haven’t yet stopped paying for the mortgage, council tax, service charges/building insurance, ground rent etc for the house where my wife & children are residing. I reckon my ex should be applying for social housing and not living there so I won’t have to pay for both mortgage and rent; and then I would be in a better position to help my children and myself.

salamjanab

kelloggs36 wrote: »

I can't see how the CSA doing any deduction of earnings itself would cause you to lose your job - it happens all the time!

You need to seek legal advice about your financial situation and the house. Good luck.

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Hi, can anyone please advise that if I have my parents who totally depend on me as they are retired and used all their savings & pension money to support my education until the age of 28.
Should CSA not consider that they are my dependents and I would need to support them too as there is no other source for them to rely for their living. They wont even be able to survive without my support. They don't live in the UK but in a country where there are no council benefits or social housing etc. Thanks in advance.

kelloggs36

No, your parents are not your dependents I'm afraid - they should be getting their own pensions to support their living costs.

salamjanab

kelloggs36 wrote: »

No, your parents are not your dependents I'm afraid - they should be getting their own pensions to support their living costs.

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They dont get any pension and spent all their savings on my education in a hope that I will be there to support them instead relying on their savings.

kelloggs36

I'm afraid that doesn't make any difference - you are responsible for the upkeep of your children and nobody else.

PlayingHardball

suebaker wrote: »

I have been going back and forth to CSA tribunals for years. I have gone into debt as i had to get expert help. Its not worth it. Just giv ethe kids what you can and forget fighting. It will only put you under a load of stress and expense.
PS My ex does have some arrears to pay - the csa are taking it from him at £6 per week. I laughed when they told me - I would be 110 years old before he pays it all back!! Just get on with loving your kids and forget the csa. xx

Hello Sue,

I agree with you, however, in most cases there is no need to go into debt. I suppose I could, but have decided not to, and let the CSA and other authorities do their thing. (not that I'm not harrassing them when they don't)!

In my case, I'm willing to just do whatever is within my reach to remind my daughters father that he is legally responsible to her financial care. So far it costs me nothing, and gives me great pleasure to know that he is being reminded, whether by the CSA or through REMO, that he is a jerk dad. They call them 'deadbeat, I believe'. Him being harrassed is the least he deserves.

In the long run, I treat it as a 'hobby' so as not to get stressed, and meanwhile, my daughter sees her dad for what he is, deadbeat and uncaring. Mind, this doesn't come from me...I still do what is humanly possible to sheild her, but teenagers aren't naive these days. His selfishness has had a huge impact on her life.

However, I get what you say and give you credit. I'm sorry it didn't work out better for you. At least you gave it your best shot for the sake of your child. I agree with you, we have to give our kids what we can, what else can we do?

I bet your child thinks you are pretty wonderful, and you are! for being there when the other parent wasn't! Both financiall and emotionally.

Take Care

salamjanab

My wife has got all sorts of orders including Non Molestation orders against me based on lies which I can easily prove in any court. Our next hearing is on 22 July. I have also filed for the divorce on 19th June.
I left the house because of her abnormal behaviour and non-stop threats that she being a woman can thrash me anytime and could occupy my house and would stop me seeing my kids. She was right though!! I think she loves me but just under the bad influence of her sister who got divorced, remarried now claiming council benefits. I might sound stupid but I honestly love that girl to the max and even when we were living I knew she is telling lies behind my back and could put me in trouble – I always gave benefit of doubt that she will never.
I left the house temporarily because of her behaviour but later she changed locks and approached court telling I have threatened to kill her and take our children away – based on no ground reality, and court ordered ex parte decision in her favour. She also contacted CSA who will soon start deducting money from my salary. I asked if she could get council house and I move back into my house (which I solely own) – might sublet the property and would be even helpful to pay you more than the amount been calculated by CPA.
Although I am not living in my house but still paying mortgage, council tax etc in addition to the rent for my separate accommodation, this place is temporarily and before this I even had to spent few nights in my car. Honestly speaking I am finding it difficult to afford mortgage, rent, child maintenance and also my living. I am a professional and have a very responsible job – because of this regular stress my job is also getting a hit.
After I left, I tried many times to speak to her but she refused. I emailed her many times that I would co-operate as much as she would like just let me meet my kids without any hindrance. She decided otherwise and approached to the court. In last few days – I think once she received the divorce papers – she started sending sweet messages that she loves me and want me by her side. I wanted to answer but couldn’t because of court order against me. I wanted to ignore her but was so difficult especially when she talked about love and kids. Yesterday we talked on msn/internet – she is now saying that we should live together and she will speak to her solicitor to call CSA to stop the case and also to lift the injunctions against me!!! My only concern is that why is she saying all this now – she wants me to talk to her when court orders are in place against me but few weeks ago she was completely different person. Because orders are against me so I can’t approach her but I reckon its ok if she approaches me!!! Not sure if it was ok that we talked over msn. Can she call or come to me to talk?
I honestly want to give her another chance because this is the only way I could live with my family including two beautiful kids (20 months and 5 month) and a girl I still love the most. It’s been 3 months since I left, I miss her and my 2 kids big time and nearly every day but its also true what she has done is evil!!! I am confused. Could anyone advise what I should do? Should I go back and live with her. Should I withdraw the divorce I have filed? I have also filed for contra orders against her – should I withdraw them too?
Another problem is my solicitor. She is never there when needed. Even doesn’t attend the pre booked appointments which also resulted in getting some bollocking at work e.g. once I took half a day off and went to her office, I was told she is on her way, stuck in the traffic etc etc but she never came even at 3pm when I left for work (appointment was for 9am), certainly I was too late when got to my office!!!. She asks alot of information than complaints that she has got many documents from me which would require plenty of time to go through. She was the one who advised me to leave the house when I called to seek her advice. One day my wife hurt me so much that I ended up going to the hospital; I had few panic attacks and blackouts that day. In the hospital I decided that I must give some space. Solicitor advised me to leave the house and make video when leaving. She was very friendly in the beginning and even agreed to talk in the evening after work and on weekends too. Now its been more than a month I am trying to get hold of her but getting different messages and she is letting me down. I know she will call me one or two days before next hearing to put me in trouble and then misusing my situation to demand more money. We had to respond to court’s letter – I emailed her all the bullet points but when I saw the letter which was ready to be sent – there were many important points missing and when I mentioned about few missing points, she also said ‘oh yes this is important – why did you not tell me before’? And actually all these points were in my email to her which I am sure she ignored!! Each time I try to get hold of her, I can only speak to her assistant who only talks about more money. She hasn’t done much on my case and I get no updates at all; like my wife yesterday told me that next hearing is on 22nd July but my solicitor hasn’t informed anything yet. Sometimes I think that I should fight my case myself without a solicitor – atleast I would know where I stand!! To get another solicitor would cost me bomb because I would pretty much need to pay all what I have already paid so far. I would rather pay that money to my children. I am completely broken anyways.
Would you advise going to the court myself without a solicitor? My solicitor is surely useless, in most cases her assistant prepares the paperwork which I am not sure if a solicitor even review/looks at!!
Could someone advise what would be the procedure to inform that I have now fired my solicitor and representing myself – I also want to complaint about her; but I think not now – any specific points I may raise as an issue while complaining about her?
Should I accept my wife’s offer – and anything I must do before doing so?
Sorry as I know I have written too much – hope you wont get bored.
Thanks in advance.

salamjanab

Hi, I sent a letter to CSA explaining that I am paying for mortgage for the house where my children and wife are residing; I am also paying for the rent for my personal accommodation and loans which I borrowed for the house and for family’s living. I also mentioned that my salary has now reduced.
In my letter, I stated that its not possible for me to talk over the phone as I work 5 days and 2 days at college. Its honestly not possible to talk over the phone but I provided them with my email address and postal address for any correspondence.
Now I am getting voicemails from them saying that I should call them back!!.
Could anyone please advise what should I do in this case. I cant afford 0845 number to call from mobile and its not possible to use office phone.
Is it not possible to stick to letters and emails as opposed to telephones?
Thanks