Injured In House

Doozergirl

swingtop wrote: »

The house was built, i believe, in the eighties so the door is certainly not that old. If i was the landlord i would have everything sorted, watertight. I hear what you are saying about the state of houses in the U.K but it isn't really an excuse is it? Cheers

On the contrary. I was not referring to the 'state' of our houses at all. I should say that there is nothing wrong with the vast majority of houses, just because they don't meet current regulations, it doesn't mean that things aren't safe.

I honestly don't believe that you would have even considered replacing a glass panel if you were a landlord. It's made of glass. What do you replace it with, different glass? How would you personally identify what type of glass is in the door and therefore whether you might want to replace it, and indeed, with what?

You may well have 'high standards' as you call it, but if the glass was indeed already cracked then it's a bit dim of someone with such high standards of health and safety awareness to
a) put up with it
b) apply pressure knowing that glass breaks and is sharp.

And if you are the sort of person that would replace the glass for your own tenants even if there was nothing visibly wrong with it, then surely these high standards would apply to yourself and you would have demanded that the glass was changed as soon as you moved in?

With such virtually unattainable high standards and the size of the chip on your shoulder, which must affect your centre of gravity, I suggest you buy your own house and pad the walls. If you would like, I can come and put some black and yellow trip hazard warning tape along the risers of your staircase for you.

silvercar

swingtop wrote:

Considering he replaced the pane of glass the next day and was very apologetic, i doubt it. Please don't comment on things you quite clearly have no knowledge of. Your attempts at comedy aren't very good either

Poor landlord can't win. He attends to repair quickly, with no attempt to blame tenant and you see this as a sign of guilt!

greyteam1959

Try and claim under your house insurance ??????

barnaby-bear

Doozergirl wrote: »

On the contrary. I was not referring to the 'state' of our houses at all. I should say that there is nothing wrong with the vast majority of houses, just because they don't meet current regulations, it doesn't mean that things aren't safe.

I honestly don't believe that you would have even considered replacing a glass panel if you were a landlord. It's made of glass. What do you replace it with, different glass? How would you personally identify what type of glass is in the door and therefore whether you might want to replace it, and indeed, with what?

You may well have 'high standards' as you call it, but if the glass was indeed already cracked then it's a bit dim of someone with such high standards of health and safety awareness to
a) put up with it
b) apply pressure knowing that glass breaks and is sharp.

And if you are the sort of person that would replace the glass for your own tenants even if there was nothing visibly wrong with it, then surely these high standards would apply to yourself and you would have demanded that the glass was changed as soon as you moved in?

With such virtually unattainable high standards and the size of the chip on your shoulder, which must affect your centre of gravity, I suggest you buy your own house and pad the walls. If you would like, I can come and put some black and yellow trip hazard warning tape along the risers of your
staircase for you.

Umm - what do they do when they go out? I mean in pubs/restaurants - do they ask for a plastic cup for her or take their own toughened receptacles.... she stuck her hand through some glass, it's glass.... if the door had spontaneously fallen on her fair enough.....

whitfreak

swingtop wrote: »

Broadly speaking what sort of regulations have been in place over the years. Surely the landlord should be checking things like this, making sure the house, fixtures and fittings etc are fit to live in and fit for purchase? Thanks in advance

It depends on the situation, when things like the requirements for a gas safety cert. changes they have until their current one runs out to make the changes (maybe even shorter). Things like glass doors, the rules when it was installed matter. So if it met the standards in 1990 (or whatever) when it was installed then its fine until it breaks and the repairs have to meet the current standards (probably different rules if its a listed property).

Different rules again apply if you go from a single occupancy to multiple occupancy lets (i.e. houses with rooms let indiviualy), as new standards have been recently introduced, and I believe they apply to all properties with this type of let so alot of landlords have been having to make changes.

As a rule of thumb if its regularly inspected then the landlord has to keep with the times, if its not then it has to meet the standards required when installed and kept in good order with replacement aparts meeting new standards.

mlz1413

I've come into this thread late but one question I have is how much pressure did swingtops gf apply to clean the glass?

Years back I stomped out of the house after rowing with my then bf, slammed the front door and my hand went straight through the glass, cut right through a vein, lots of blood, hours in A&E, stitches, couldn't drive for a few days due to the pain, still have a small scar and lump where I was put together. No physio but that was probably because I justed used my hand.

The front door only had thin glass and it took a serious amount of pressure to break it, so how on earth can you break an internal pane (probably same thickness of glass) by cleaning it?

I'm with the rest of the thread I can't see how compenstion would be due, the LL wasn't nelegant, your gf would have to prove she didn't use reasonable force if LL counter sued.

By the way how long since the accident and are you planning on staying in this house when contract is up?

swingtop

Doozergirl wrote: »

On the contrary. I was not referring to the 'state' of our houses at all. I should say that there is nothing wrong with the vast majority of houses, just because they don't meet current regulations, it doesn't mean that things aren't safe.

I honestly don't believe that you would have even considered replacing a glass panel if you were a landlord. It's made of glass. What do you replace it with, different glass? How would you personally identify what type of glass is in the door and therefore whether you might want to replace it, and indeed, with what?

You may well have 'high standards' as you call it, but if the glass was indeed already cracked then it's a bit dim of someone with such high standards of health and safety awareness to
a) put up with it
b) apply pressure knowing that glass breaks and is sharp.

And if you are the sort of person that would replace the glass for your own tenants even if there was nothing visibly wrong with it, then surely these high standards would apply to yourself and you would have demanded that the glass was changed as soon as you moved in?

With such virtually unattainable high standards and the size of the chip on your shoulder, which must affect your centre of gravity, I suggest you buy your own house and pad the walls. If you would like, I can come and put some black and yellow trip hazard warning tape along the risers of your staircase for you.

Personal attacks on an open forum? Excellent! Did that make you feel better? Could you re-read the thread then answer sensibly. Some people...

swingtop

whitfreak wrote: »

It depends on the situation, when things like the requirements for a gas safety cert. changes they have until their current one runs out to make the changes (maybe even shorter). Things like glass doors, the rules when it was installed matter. So if it met the standards in 1990 (or whatever) when it was installed then its fine until it breaks and the repairs have to meet the current standards (probably different rules if its a listed property).

Different rules again apply if you go from a single occupancy to multiple occupancy lets (i.e. houses with rooms let indiviualy), as new standards have been recently introduced, and I believe they apply to all properties with this type of let so alot of landlords have been having to make changes.

As a rule of thumb if its regularly inspected then the landlord has to keep with the times, if its not then it has to meet the standards required when installed and kept in good order with replacement aparts meeting new standards.

Cheers. Finally a bit of common sense