how much for after school care?

cobbingstones

Same as above. £6 per child 3.30 to 5.30

slash69

Errata wrote: »

Bearing in mind what Sue has written - how about buying some of the grandparents groceries every week ?

this would still be classed as payment by ofsted so they will still have to become registered by said ofsted.
you can claim the childcare element of wtc for a relative to care for your children but again ONLY if they are registered with ofsted ( i know cos i did it for my sisters children)i am registered and had nobody elses children at the time and still had to follow all of ofsteds rules and regulations with no exceptions.
ofsted regard any payment in kind as payment iyswim . the only way you can get round this is that your mil would HAVE to look after your children at YOUR house if you wish to ''pay'' her in any way.if ofsted found out then you bth could get into trouble...
sorry hun its a ridiculous nightmare ofsted are a law unto themselves and deffo not for the good in a lot of cases ...good luck with your decision

Errata

I take your point, but precisly who would inform Osted ?

galvanizersbaby

I have two children at after school club and it costs 7.50 from 2.45 - 6pm each if that's any help.

Re all the comments about Ofsted and your MIL registering as a childminder etc..
You haven't said whether you would be claiming the payment as a childcare element in your WTC or not - assumably if not you would be ok to just pay your MIL?!
Hopefully this would be ok?!

slash69

errata believe me hun around our way it seems to be anyone. when my daughter was v young a teacher rung ofsted because one of the littles ones said her gran cried because mummy bought her a cake with thanks for looking after us written on it with a picture off them all on it...ofsted went round and threw a hissy fit..
you get nosey neighbours/ other mums at school and even worse other childminders in fact any one who holds (or thinks they do) a grudge against you.
some people can be so petty and nasty.
personally i think it's pathetic and believe that is what family is for-to help each other....
a couple of years ago there was rumblings in the government about allowing gandparents to be paid for looking after their own grandchildren without being registered, but surprise surprise nothing came of it probably because ofsted would lose money and not be able to stick their noses into the grandparents business or how they care for the little ones

galvanizersbaby

slash69 wrote: »

personally i think it's pathetic and believe that is what family is for-to help each other....
a couple of years ago there was rumblings in the government about allowing gandparents to be paid for looking after their own grandchildren without being registered, but surprise surprise nothing came of it probably because ofsted would lose money and not be able to stick their noses into the grandparents business or how they care for the little ones

I think to be honest though most grandparents would not want paying for looking after their grandchildren (in this case it's the OP that wants to pay them in some way which I think is a nice idea and I would probably want to offer the same if it were me)
I can't imagine why somebody would naturally assume that a grandparent would be being paid to look after their grandchild!?
I am just imagining my mum turning round having had my 2 children for a couple of hours at her place and saying 'that will be 13.50 for the 2 dear!'

Spendless

you USED to be able to pay a close relative for childcare without them being ofsted registered, but if you were wanting to claim for childcare costs via tax credits or childcare vouchers THEN the relative had to be a registered childminder AND minding at least 1 other (non-related) child. That was the case when I last looked it up a few years ago, so it might have changed by now.

ETA -looks like it's still the case


If a relative of the child looks after your child in their home, they will not be approved unless they also look after children to whom they are not related. This doesn't mean that they cannot look after your child for payment, just that you will not be able to claim the costs back through Tax Credits or get tax relief on your childcare vouchers. If the relative looks after the child in the child's own home you will not be able to claim, even if non relatives are also being looked after. The definition of relative is quite wide and includes relatives by marriage and by affinity (partners), even if they are not blood relatives of the child. For more information, call our helpline on 0800 013 0313 or the Childcare Approval scheme on 0845 767 8111.

From this link
http://www.workingfamilies.org.uk/asp/family_zone/fs_cc1_childcare.asp

Rachie_B

you do not need to be registered to care for children less than 2 hours per day ( or the over 8's)

the OP only needs care for 1.5 hours a day ...

i think it's ridiculous that grandparents / relatives / friends can't have an informal agreement to look after children and get paid for it

many do it and will continue to do it!!

( i understand the importance of registered CMers eg ,as i am a Nanny myself)

also if the care of the children takes place in THEIR ( the childs) home then no need to be registered also ,as this is more of a nannying role rather than "childminder" eg in the carers home

fsdss

galvanizersbaby wrote: »

You haven't said whether you would be claiming the payment as a childcare element in your WTC or not - assumably if not you would be ok to just pay your MIL?!
Hopefully this would be ok?!

i cannot claim payment as part of WTC as i am not entitled to it.

the care will be in my home, theres a 3 mile journey from both grandparents to ours.

as it is less than 2 hrs a day - and it being at my home - it seems that i do not need to have her registered with ofsted. (how ridiculous IMO, that i cannot entrust a close relative without ofsted's sayso - i can understand it for a stranger.....but not a very close relatibe.....but anyway thats another thread!), so i shall look at employing either grandparent as a nanny, and run it through my small business books. i am thinking £50 per week and car provided.

themaccas

fsdss - I think that sounds a fair price IMO.