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  • I did Betterware a year or two ago, and didn't make a great deal from it. The best week I had was around £60 I think (the worst werk was zero!) but it was normally around £20 - £30 a week. I stopped my gym membership and kept it up for about 6 months on the basis that it was cheaper (I lost loads of weight too.), but as I was spending getting on for 8 hours a week it really wasn't worth it. It wad 6 hous a week to take round/collect brochures and 2 hours or so to sort out paperwork and deliver the orders.
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  • Kleeneze starts from £70. I can only guess that you don't want to put in the effort to reap the rewards. I am in my 5th week with Kleeneze and to date I have processed just over £1000 of orders. My 1st certificate of income was for £231, £49 of which was paid to me by Kleeneze for achieving the 10% bonus level.

    Like any business it requires time, effort and money. Gradually you will come into profit and if you do what your sponsor advises then you will succeed. To date I have paid for starter kit with 200 catalogues, a website and have ordered 2 boxes of 50 catalogues to replace ones I lost and to have spares. I've also signed up a distributor in my 1st 4 weeks.

    My sponsor (https://www.andymeldrum.com) is a senior executive distributor (SED) and was one of the first in Scotland to win a car, BMW 3 series which is his to keep. He had to start at the bottom too.

    I would advise anyone considering Kleeneze that they have to choose the areas they wish to distribute catalogues to very carefully. Try and area where you are likely to get the majority of them back. I did this last week and received over £300 of orders.

    At the moment I am not making a fortune from Kleeneze but through time and hard work I hope to be earning enough to ditch the day job.

    The majority of people putting down Kleeneze on these forums are clearly afraid of hard work and have not done their homework with regard to household spend per catalogue. If they had they would have an idea of the sales they could generate per catalogue drop and have an idea of how much they could earn per week and have an idea of when they will be in profit. They would also know how many catalogues they will lose on average per week and plan to replenish catalogues when their stocks level are low.

    If you put in the work, you will be rewarded.
  • lozza1985
    lozza1985 Posts: 3,373 Forumite
    Not always! We have put in lots of hard work - and yet have had hardly any sales as so many of the houses round here already have a distributor and so don't want to order with us. lots of people getting irratated at having x number of books delivered every week to! We will keep trying a little longer, but at this rate, with the £7.50 a month online charge, and delivery charges for orders we won't be making anything at all! I know you can get free delivery, but our sales just aren't anywhere near that much!!!!

    So annoying as we really wanted, and would still like, to make a good go at it but it just isn't working!

    Also, just clicked on your link - its against forum rules to "Don't post links for personal gain. Except in the referrers section and always declare any interest" (copied from top of page) - and surely you will be making, or somebody at least!, money from people signing up through your website???
    Avon Lady since 2009 - I help on the Avon hints & tips thread to help other reps/new sales leaders as I was helped so much by it when I first started out :A
  • Sorry to read about your misfortune Lozza. Maybe I have been lucky with my orders. Apologies again regarding my link, I am new to the forums here and had no idea about this rule, I will remember this in future.

    I have been doing KLZ for 5 weeks and have 1 distributor under me who has recently started out.

    A couple of weeks ago I experienced an area where a few distributors had been posting catalogues before I got there. One of them were using the old catalogues which surprised me as KLZ tell distributors to bin them as they are out of date. I plan to go back in a few weeks and finish off the estate I started. To be fair I did get a few orders and a potential repeat order, which isn't bad considering a couple of people had been there before me.

    Where exactly are you in the UK? And what areas do you deliver to? To date I have found that areas that are new builds aren't too good. Areas where people have bought their council house and areas with period homes are better to distribute catalogues to.

    I am assuming that if you visit a house to get your catalogue back and its not there, you post an "out slip" through their letterbox telling them that you will be back the following day. I started this and although I don't get all of them back, I get the majority back.

    Please keep in touch as I am interested to hear how you are getting on, good or bad. It may be that you have an unsupportive sponsor, or it could be the areas you are choosing to cover.

    jim@jimbryce.com
  • lozza1985
    lozza1985 Posts: 3,373 Forumite
    We have tried absolutely everywhere in our area, travelling quite a distance as well - everywhere is covered!!!! And yes we do put the slips in saying we'll call back for the books - we haven't actually lost that many, it's just that we don't get any orders!!! We've decided to put the books in the newspaper to be honest in order to get some of our money back - as soon we will be being charged £7.50 delivery, and so will be at a loss. Our sponsor has been very supportive, pestering us with phone calls tbh which is irratating.

    I think the simple answer is there is just too many people in our area doing Kleeneze! I think if you can do it full-time then you would be able to get enough orders to make the internet charge/delivery charges worth it - but we both work full time so can't go and do a full round everyday.

    O well - we live and learn! I wish you luck, obviously your area isn't as saturated with distributors!
    Avon Lady since 2009 - I help on the Avon hints & tips thread to help other reps/new sales leaders as I was helped so much by it when I first started out :A
  • Hello again Lozza, Sounds like you have been unfortunate enough to be living in or covering a saturated area. The reason I started KLZ, apart from to earn money was that no-one was doing my estate. We have had 1 KLZ book drop in 20 months so I thought why not give it a go.

    I am due to drop catalogues at areas I have covered in my last period, so I may not be so lucky with orders. My sponsor is very good and he doesn't pester me on the phone, but I am in regular contact with him. The only hassle I have is managing KLZ with my job.

    Like you I also work full time. I am a postman, and you would imagine that after treading the streets in all weathers, Kleeneze is the last thing I would want to do. But I have a fair idea of how quickly I can cover an area on foot which is an advantage.

    I am sorry to hear that you are giving up, but if I was in your situation I think I would do the same.

    Good luck in selling off your books and I wish you all the best in any venture you try out in future.

    Jim Bryce
  • lozza1985
    lozza1985 Posts: 3,373 Forumite
    Thanks - sounds like you are lucky in your area! I just hope the books and unused order forms will sell for a reasonable amount - then at least we will be part way there.

    We do Avon as well, started at the same time as Kleeneze, and we have done really well with it. So we have asked for extra houses - people are much happier to give us the books back as obviously there is only us delivering Avon books to them, and there is no internet or delivery charges or charges for order forms, round books etc, so it's much easier to make a profit. Obviously we are limited by having a fixed area but I think where we live this isn't a bad thing!!!:p

    Hope you have lots of success with Kleeneze :D
    Avon Lady since 2009 - I help on the Avon hints & tips thread to help other reps/new sales leaders as I was helped so much by it when I first started out :A
  • Thank you for your kind words.

    I have to apologise to you regarding people unwilling to get off their butts and put in the work. Sounds like you did exactly what was expected of you and sadly it didn't pay off. But not everyone wants to put in the effort required. A lot of people still think that after a few drops they will be making a full time wage on part time hours, if only!

    I'm pleased to read your post about you doing well with Avon, I don't know too much about them, apart from the fact that they sell cosmetics and beauty products. My mum used to get their book when I was much younger, (I'm 38 now) and she ordered regularly.

    With regard to you selling your books, I would use them but I think posting them to me would be expensive. The order forms would come in useful but I guess you would want to sell the kit as a complete set. Can you give me prices for the catalogues and order forms? I am assuming that they are all in good condition and come with the snap-bags?

    Jim
  • jhp
    jhp Posts: 2,342 Forumite
    Kleeneze starts from £70. I can only guess that you don't want to put in the effort to reap the rewards. I am in my 5th week with Kleeneze and to date I have processed just over £1000 of orders. My 1st certificate of income was for £231, £49 of which was paid to me by Kleeneze for achieving the 10% bonus level.

    Like any business it requires time, effort and money. Gradually you will come into profit and if you do what your sponsor advises then you will succeed. To date I have paid for starter kit with 200 catalogues, a website and have ordered 2 boxes of 50 catalogues to replace ones I lost and to have spares. I've also signed up a distributor in my 1st 4 weeks.

    My sponsor (xxxxxxxxx) is a senior executive distributor (SED) and was one of the first in Scotland to win a car, BMW 3 series which is his to keep. He had to start at the bottom too.

    I would advise anyone considering Kleeneze that they have to choose the areas they wish to distribute catalogues to very carefully. Try and area where you are likely to get the majority of them back. I did this last week and received over £300 of orders.

    At the moment I am not making a fortune from Kleeneze but through time and hard work I hope to be earning enough to ditch the day job.

    The majority of people putting down Kleeneze on these forums are clearly afraid of hard work and have not done their homework with regard to household spend per catalogue. If they had they would have an idea of the sales they could generate per catalogue drop and have an idea of how much they could earn per week and have an idea of when they will be in profit. They would also know how many catalogues they will lose on average per week and plan to replenish catalogues when their stocks level are low.

    If you put in the work, you will be rewarded.

    Jim Bryce
    www.xxxxx.com

    Spam .Not one but two affiliate links.

    Don't post links for personal gain. Except in the referrers section
  • jhp
    jhp Posts: 2,342 Forumite
    Kleeneze starts from £70. I can only guess that you don't want to put in the effort to reap the rewards. I am in my 5th week with Kleeneze and to date I have processed just over £1000 of orders. My 1st certificate of income was for £231, £49 of which was paid to me by Kleeneze for achieving the 10% bonus level.

    Like any business it requires time, effort and money. Gradually you will come into profit and if you do what your sponsor advises then you will succeed. To date I have paid for starter kit with 200 catalogues, a website and have ordered 2 boxes of 50 catalogues to replace ones I lost and to have spares. I've also signed up a distributor in my 1st 4 weeks.

    My sponsor (xxxxxxxxx) is a senior executive distributor (SED) and was one of the first in Scotland to win a car, BMW 3 series which is his to keep. He had to start at the bottom too.

    I would advise anyone considering Kleeneze that they have to choose the areas they wish to distribute catalogues to very carefully. Try and area where you are likely to get the majority of them back. I did this last week and received over £300 of orders.

    At the moment I am not making a fortune from Kleeneze but through time and hard work I hope to be earning enough to ditch the day job.

    The majority of people putting down Kleeneze on these forums are clearly afraid of hard work and have not done their homework with regard to household spend per catalogue. If they had they would have an idea of the sales they could generate per catalogue drop and have an idea of how much they could earn per week and have an idea of when they will be in profit. They would also know how many catalogues they will lose on average per week and plan to replenish catalogues when their stocks level are low.

    If you put in the work, you will be rewarded.

    Jim Bryce
    www.xxxxx.com

    Spam . Two affiliate links.

    Don't post links for personal gain. Except in the referrers section
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