My dog has been bitten by another dog.

minimad1970

My dog has dog aggression after being attacked twice. I don't put a muzzle on him, on advice from the vet that this would increase his fear. If a dog comes over he will growl at them, he's never bitten another dog. As far as I'm concerned I should not have to muzzle him just because other dog owners can't keep their dog away from mine. Strangely enough he's a border terrier.:)

ali-t

Mish_Mash wrote: »

What I do have an issue with is when owners, who know that they have a dog with socialisation issues/behavioural problems, fail to put a muzzle on a dog. It's a small thing to do and will ensure that walking your dog should be relatively stress free because you don't have to worry about your dog or other dogs. The number of times I have been in a park and seen snappy/agressive dogs on and off the lead with no muzzle is countless. Dogs need to be walked and need to be socialised but this should be done in a sensible way.



Final point, everyone seems to be so evangelical about 'perfect recall' but I think you need to get off your high horses. Dogs are animals, yes you can train them, but there will always be times when a dog will be a nightmare to recall - !!!!! in heat, squirrel etc etc. You can only do your best. If your recall is really poor then don't let your dog off the lead otherwise keep perservering with training.

I fail to see why I should muzzle my dogs because other people don't have control of theirs. A muzzle prevents other dogs from being able to read facial expressions and as a result doggy disagreements are more likely to happen. You could liken this to a person coming towards you with a bag on their head. You would find it much harder to guage their intentions without being able to see their facial expressions.

I get very 'evangelical' as you describe it because poor recall coupled with owners who make little effort to get their dogs back are the bane of my life.

I don't want to start ranting about this again as I risk sounding like a broken record

gettingready

I feel that most vets should be banned from giving advice on behavioural problems - what I see on the forums ("vet told me this and that") and what I hear from other per owners is often very irresponsible and sometimes scary... coming from the vets.

Same applies to feeding advice - I have heard so many times NOT to feed any raw food to my dog or cats as it is dangerous/not healthy etc etc.... from the vets...

They really should concentrate on medical help and nothing else.... sigh....

I feed my dog and all cats raw meat ocassionally - they love it and I will keep on feeding it to them.

My dog has moments where she will "not like" another dog and if allowed - would chase it away (not bite but chase away). But she is always within my reach and I know I am able to grab her in time.

I am NOT putting a muzzle of her just because some "friendly dogs'" owners do not call their own dogs away while they run free at full speed at my dog and the owner is hundred meteres away, not giving a damn that their cute little "friendly" thing is running at full speed at my 40kg German Shepherd and expecting me to handle the situation...

LOL

Some people....

Yeah rite "he only wants to play"... yeah rite - dogs have manners too and the ones with manners will know HOW to approach another dog TO PLAY - runing towards another dog at full speed is NOT "inviting to play"

And I am fed up of little JRT and other tiney dogs biting my dog's ankles or tails and the owners thinking it is "cute"....just becaus etheir dog is maller than mine so mine has no right to growl when !!!!ed off?

LOL

Reality check everyone.... plssss

Rant over... thanks for reading grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

PudseyDB

rev229 wrote: »

She of course saw these dogs and ran over before we could get her on the lead. Not sure what happened next but following some barking and yelping she came running to us bleeding

What should I do when out with my dog again? Should I keep her on the lead for time being in case she bites another dog or muzzle her and let her off the lead. She is 4, a border collie x, rescued her 6 months ago. She is quite an anxious dog anyway. Any help apprciated.

Are you sure your dog even bit one of these dogs? You said they were unhurt. it seems extreme to put a muzzle on her because of this incidence. Personally I'd recommend putting her on a flexi lead for walks.

postingalwaysposting

Our dog has an awful recall. When he is alone in the park/a field/at home his recall is lovely and 100%. Add another dog into the mix and his recal is shocking, to the point where you have to run after him to get him back. He doesn't run to attack he runs to play and chase, which some owners don't like in the slightest which I totally understand.

So instead of feeling like a numpty when I walk him and having to always appologise, he has a flexi lead. Its 8metres so plenty of room to run and do normal things but I know I can get him back if another dog were to appear. He is also let off the lead in some situations, when I can see no one around or is 'penned' in where I can monitor new arrivals. That way I feel safe, the dog feels safe and other owners arn't worried.

If he starts attacking or nipping at anyone/anything he will get a muzzle. I don't care if he doesn't like it or if he looks silly he will be muzzled. Thank heavens I think he is too placcid to nip but never say never. He is a cairn cross terrier btw, any dog bigger than him is his best friend :rotfl:

Humphrey10

gettingready wrote: »

dogs have manners too and the ones with manners will know HOW to approach another dog TO PLAY - runing towards another dog at full speed is NOT "inviting to play"

And I am fed up of little JRT and other tiney dogs biting my dog's ankles or tails and the owners thinking it is "cute"....just becaus etheir dog is maller than mine so mine has no right to growl when !!!!ed off?

I walk my dog off the lead, even though she doesn't have perfect recall if other dogs are around. she has the sense not to run at dogs at full speed, she stops and looks at the dog before approaching (usually. Sometimes she runs at them so fast she can't stop in time and tramples the other dog. This only happens with dogs that are already running about though, I think she is trying to run about with them).

Little dogs that try and nip at her like that get smacked in the face by her. I think this is her playing with them rather than telling them off though.

I think there should be something like puppy classes, where you can take your puppy to meet older bigger short tempered dogs, to teach the puppies some manners.

Perr

I agree with gettingready It always seems to be the small dogs who want to bark and snap at other dogs, and people should always keep a eye on what their dog is doing, instead of walking with the dog way in front or behind them, some who dont turn round to even look what it is doing. Even if your dog is on a lead,as mine is if you have a bigger dog you always seemto get the blame, like their little dog could not possibly do anywrong.

minimad1970

Perr wrote: »

I agree with gettingready It always seems to be the small dogs who want to bark and snap at other dogs, and people should always keep a eye on what their dog is doing, instead of walking with the dog way in front or behind them, some who dont turn round to even look what it is doing. Even if your dog is on a lead,as mine is if you have a bigger dog you always seemto get the blame, like their little dog could not possibly do anywrong.

I disagree with the small dogs comment, mine sometimes now barks at other dogs after being badly bitten by a rottie. The rottie didn't bark or growl your're right he just ripped a chunk out of my dog. It can be any breed small or large it's just the bigger ones can do more damage. Just my opinion.

sarabe

gettingready wrote: »

I feel that most vets should be banned from giving advice on behavioural problems - what I see on the forums ("vet told me this and that") and what I hear from other per owners is often very irresponsible and sometimes scary... coming from the vets........

Tell me about it!!

I'm thinking of writing an ebook on how to neuter your dog.

Seriously though I've lost count of the number of times that a vet's advice and sometimes their treatment (scruffing, pinning, shouting at) of a pup that is scared on their first vet visit is the primary cause of the start of a behaviour problem. Sometimes we can turn things around if we catch then young enough but often the damage is done.

With reference to muzzles, I work with dog aggressive dogs and have never used or recommended a muzzle.

minimad1970

Sarabe, Did I read on here that you were based in Hampshire?