What happens to state benefit in a recession

gemmalouanna

Davesnave wrote: »

Real depression takes many interesting forms.

Very true and I wouldn't wish real depression on anyone (not in my own experience), I think many people are generalising depression/mental issues because the excuses are so widely used and this has made it seem less severe. I think people confuse being a bit fed-up/unmotivated with depression plus they have a bad wrist or something which in the grand scheme isn't terrible yet they claim to be so depressed because of it - some people just need to be told to grow up and get on with it.

gemmalouanna

neverdespairgirl wrote: »

No, primary. My son's only 3, so I've paid absolutely no attention to post-primary yet - sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.

Yes thought so there is such a difference between the level of support, I thought it seemed generous for secondary

PasturesNew

I was mis-diagnosed with depression on numerous occasions about 20-25 years ago. I knew I wasn't depressed, I didn't feel depressed. But they gave me these stupid tablets and made me stay off work.

Now I know I wasn't depressed, but were they listening back then? No.

The worst bit was that by the time I was signed back, I lost my confidence (felt like a loser because of that label) and subsequently lost the job (no sympathy back then for sickos). So there I was out of work, not feeling depressed but having been told I had been. Bummer. It's taken me another 25 years to find out what it was all really about.

Davesnave

gemmalouanna wrote: »

PasturesNew wrote: »

Well ours (about 800 pupils) managed with about 3 office staff 5 years ago now I would hate to guess how many we have! - an exams officer, an attendance officer, welfare officer, data anaylsis officer, general receptionists, apprentice receptionists, heads assisstant, several key workers, house keeper, health and safety officer....and that is just off the top of my head! It really has gone crazy every cleaning cupboard has been turned into an office.

Yet my bottom set year 7 has pupils who cannot read the word 'dog' ... can we not have a spelling/reading officer to work with these kids for several hours a day to get them upto scratch! Madness

Year 7 is far too late, though it would be madness not to do something.

"Give me a child until he is seven and I will show you the man."

Actually, I think the Jesuits were wrong; it's more like four.

gemmalouanna

Davesnave wrote: »

gemmalouanna wrote: »

Year 7 is far too late, though it would be madness not to do something.

"Give me a child until he is seven and I will show you the man."

Actually, I think the Jesuits were wrong; it's more like four.

I know I just feel sorry trying to teach conduction/convection/radiation or something when they just need some basic skills - thankfully we are tailoring our work to applying science to their everday life and they seem to get something out of it - but there is no 'evidence' of work in their books we spend a lot of time discussing and trying to do practicals to develop social skills - sometimes I wonder if it is obvious that it is a science lesson

olly300

neverdespairgirl wrote: »

I want to know how people manage to sit on their bums all day with kids. How do they cope with the "get up Mummy! Isaac want to go a park NOW!"

If the kid is young they either:
1. Tell them to "Shut the f*** up and go and f****** sit down or they will get one" or words to that affect. And then give them "one".
2. Have a willing mother, other female relation, friend or kids father who checks in on them and takes the kid to the park.
3. Get an older sibling to take them to the park.

MrsE_2

gemmalouanna wrote: »

Well ours (about 800 pupils) managed with about 3 office staff 5 years ago now I would hate to guess how many we have! - an exams officer, an attendance officer, welfare officer, data anaylsis officer, general receptionists, apprentice receptionists, heads assisstant, several key workers, house keeper, health and safety officer....and that is just off the top of my head! It really has gone crazy every cleaning cupboard has been turned into an office.

Its cheaper to have admin staff doing jobs that they can do, rather than paying operational (Teachers) staff to do everything.

Its like the arguement about Social Workers should be out in the field dealing with people, not typing in an office - pay an admin !!! to do that.

PasturesNew

olly300 wrote: »

If the kid is young they either:
1. Tell them to "Shut the f*** up and go and f****** sit down or they will get one" or words to that affect. And then give them "one".
2. Have a willing mother, other female relation, friend or kids father who checks in on them and takes the kid to the park.
3. Get an older sibling to take them to the park.

You forgot:
4. Give them some Stella, that keeps the bleeders quiet for an hour or two so your mates can come round and have a smoke of some weed without the brat interrupting.

olly300

neverdespairgirl wrote: »

gemmalouanna wrote: »

Our nearest school has classes of 28 with 1 teacher and 2 assistants.

How many special needs kids are in the class?

Davesnave

neverdespairgirl wrote: »

I'd love to take the credit, but he's been a stubborn and determined little sod since birth (-:

It's the compliant ones you have to watch. Later on, they turn into the easily-led.