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What happens to state benefit in a recession

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  • PasturesNew
    PasturesNew Posts: 70,698 Forumite
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    Broken_hearted wrote: »
    Ever? No state education, healthcare, dentistry
    Now you've changed the goalposts.

    However, for the sake of completeness:
    - state education to age 18, but nothing like EMA and my parents never received any WTC or similar top ups. Also we had one teacher per 30-40 kids, not one teacher + a teaching assistant for just 20 kids

    - not much healthcare. Wasn't born in hospital, no midwife delivered me, have never had an operation or stayed overnight in hospital, never broken anything. I am rarely even registered with a Doctor. Visited on just two occasions for a 3-4 minute consultation in the last 20 years.

    - not had an NHS dentist for 10-15 years, I rarely went anyway. Never had any braces etc, never had wisdom teeth either (so no extractions).

    I was cheap to produce!
  • seven-day-weekend
    seven-day-weekend Posts: 36,755 Forumite
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    Cleaver wrote: »
    Aside from all the killings of course? And that awful hair and 'tache combo. So 1940's.

    I hope you realise that I WAS joking!:eek:
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  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite
    PasturesNew wrote: »
    It's a fashion accessory.

    A rather expensive, noisy, and smelly one. Handbags are easier and less effort.
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • gemmalouanna
    gemmalouanna Posts: 456 Forumite
    PasturesNew wrote: »
    not one teacher + a teaching assistant for just 20 kids

    I wish :) Can you tell me where to get a job at a school like that please
  • Cleaver
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    seven-day-weekend wrote: »
    I hope you realise that I WAS joking!:eek:

    I has my suspicions, yes!
  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite
    treliac wrote: »
    It is if you want to make a reasonable job of it but, we can be of no doubt, not everyone is thus motivated. In fact, there's another suspicious toddler death, reported to have happened in London this week.

    I want to know how people manage to sit on their bums all day with kids. How do they cope with the "get up Mummy! Isaac want to go a park NOW!"
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite
    irish_eyes wrote: »
    Just a thought. How many contributers to this thread receive child benefit or working tax credits?

    Yes to the first (one child) no to the second.
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • treliac
    treliac Posts: 4,524 Forumite
    Broken_hearted wrote: »
    Ever? No state education, healthcare, dentistry

    I think PN means in relation to support with living expenses and not state provision that everyone is entitled to and which is paid for through taxation of earnings.
  • huntersc
    huntersc Posts: 424 Forumite
    ad9898 wrote: »
    I thanked you because you put your point across well, I'm just not sure about the concept. The very problem we have at this time is everyone has spent too much, the middle classes especially, you only have to look at the personal debt mountain we have here, not many of them have saved, they have spent what they have got and what they haven't.

    Sure but I'm talking about recovering from a recession and the relation between benefits and spend. If you think that spending is the only way out of a recession then a great way to do that is to make money available to the poor and lower classes because they will spend it rather than using it to pay debt or save.

    The people that got us here, the middle classes with the massive credit exposure, what happens if we now give them tax rebates etc? Do you think they'll carry on spending? Buy another new car? Or do you think they're more likely to try and pay off the debt mountain that they have?

    Give me £50k right now and 100% of it will go into savings. Give the average benefits claimant £50k how much do you think will be saved? Or would you agree that his local landlord will be a very happy chappy for a few months? :) They'll probably go straight down to the local USC chain and buy crap like Stone Island jumpers for £200. :)
  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite
    gemmalouanna wrote: »
    PasturesNew wrote: »
    not one teacher + a teaching assistant for just 20 kids

    I wish :) Can you tell me where to get a job at a school like that please

    Our nearest school has classes of 28 with 1 teacher and 2 assistants.
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
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