Is CSA1 an exact science? (if so where can I get a copy of the formula) -merged-

marksoton

Mothballed, no they cannot force your partner to meet YOUR responsibilities to your child. However you must feel that you have a moral obligation to your first child ?

This is always an emotive subject, after all in an age of so called equality why should a man not choose to be at home with their newborn.

Having said that as Kelloggs has stated they may apply legal status to your debt. And more to the point surely you don't want your first child to go without ?

marksoton

No, only a PWC can close a case.

Zara33

If you are sacked will you get jobseekers need to think very carefully before you do anything rash.

rachfriar78

I'm pretty sure they take half of her wages into consideration, your housing costs and the fact that you have another child as well but under CSA2 they don't take her wages or any tax credis etc you claim into account

marksoton

rachfriar78 wrote: »

I'm pretty sure they take half of her wages into consideration, your housing costs and the fact that you have another child as well but under CSA2 they don't take her wages or any tax credis etc you claim into account

This is incorrect, in this scenario his partners wages are irrelevant.

rachfriar78

Going back 5 maybe 6 years ago when I was on CSA1 I was told by the CSA that my wages would be taken into account with ny partners CSA case and part of my wages would go to his children. I can only go on what I have been told so if the rules have changed I do apologise

marksoton

rachfriar78 wrote: »

Going back 5 maybe 6 years ago when I was on CSA1 I was told by the CSA that my wages would be taken into account with ny partners CSA case and part of my wages would go to his children. I can only go on what I have been told so if the rules have changed I do apologise

I know little about CSA1 myself however this is a misconception. Kelloggs can explain further.

IMO it is a disgrace that anyone is still on CSA1. It is a complicated calculation and should be consigned to history.

mothballed

marksoton wrote: »

Mothballed, no they cannot force your partner to meet YOUR responsibilities tlo your child. However you must feel that you have a moral obligation to your first child ?

The CSA chooses not to address morality so neither do I. They charge me the maximum as a non dependent housing allowance which is less than half my tenancy agreement obligation on the basis the flat belongs to my uncle. This is not living as a non dependant (even by the CSA's own definition) and its the CSA's choice not to put things right. There is nothing morally right about forcing parent/child separation then cheating him of the right to work for financial gain. I earn a nett income of £68.75 a week and JSA pays £60-something. I am nackered working nearly 70 hours a week working for nothing so questioning morality is a non-starter.

Having said that as Kelloggs has stated they may apply legal status to your debt. And more to the point surely you don't want your first child to go without ?

They can live with us. I dont think the CSA will apply for legal status because there is an arrangement already in place to repay the arrears. In any event it would achieve nothing. I have no income (DEO - no employer), assets (bailiffs - cant levy on someone elses goods) or property (charging order - cannot charge on girlfriends house) and committal is only for unchallenged wilful refusal to pay a debt (which I can challenge anyway because I can prove the assessment is wrong because my uncle does not live with me).

rachfriar78

Yeah i totally agree they should do away with it, it was a joke from start to finish

mothballed

marksoton wrote: »

This is incorrect, in this scenario his partners wages are irrelevant.

I hope you are right, can anyone else concur with that?

I need to be 150% sure my girlfriends income cannot be taxed by the CSA for my children from my 1st marriage?