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RENTING? Check your LL has permission to let that property.

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  • MissMoneypenny
    MissMoneypenny Posts: 5,324 Forumite
    edited 29 April 2010 at 12:24AM
    silvercar wrote: »
    It will help those on a fixed term contract as (as you say in your signature) currently they could be turfed out with very little notice. The new law will give them two months notice.

    Generally a good thing.

    You often encourage people on these boards to let their house without permisson from the mortgage lender.Why do you do that? You know how much misery it can cause a tenant if there is no consent to let.

    Are you now trying to stop people protecting themselves, by ensuring that a landlord has consent to let from the mortgage lender?

    It is not "generally a good thing" for someone to have a 12 month fixed contract, only to then find out they have an illegal let and that the contract is not recognised by the mortgage lender. Tenants need to see proof that the potential landlord has received an in date Consent to Let from the mortgage lender and that they are not not behind with their mortgage payments.
    RENTING? Have you checked to see that your landlord has permission from their mortgage lender to rent the property? If not, you could be thrown out with very little notice.
    Read the sticky on the House Buying, Renting & Selling board.


  • silvercar
    silvercar Posts: 49,545 Ambassador
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    It is a good thing because it gives tenants better protection than they've had before, in the unfortunate situation when their home is repo'd. Do you think it is a bad law that shouldn't be enacted?
    I'm a Forum Ambassador on the housing, mortgages & student money saving boards. I volunteer to help get your forum questions answered and keep the forum running smoothly. Forum Ambassadors are not moderators and don't read every post. If you spot an illegal or inappropriate post then please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com (it's not part of my role to deal with this). Any views are mine and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.com.
  • MissMoneypenny
    MissMoneypenny Posts: 5,324 Forumite
    silvercar wrote: »
    It is a good thing because it gives tenants better protection than they've had before, in the unfortunate situation when their home is repo'd. Do you think it is a bad law that shouldn't be enacted?

    It's a bad law in that it doesn't do enough to protect tenants who have a fixed contract, as you well know.

    I would still like to know why you encourage landlords to let their property without Consent to Let from the lender, when you know it can cause so much misery to the tenants and their families. Why do you do that?
    RENTING? Have you checked to see that your landlord has permission from their mortgage lender to rent the property? If not, you could be thrown out with very little notice.
    Read the sticky on the House Buying, Renting & Selling board.


  • silvercar
    silvercar Posts: 49,545 Ambassador
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    It's a bad law in that it doesn't do enough to protect tenants who have a fixed contract, as you well know.

    Its a step in the right direction. It means that every tenant will know that they will always get at least 2 months notice to move; not ideal, but better than the 7 days that could currently happen. Why not support it?
    I would still like to know why you encourage landlords to let their property without Consent to Let from the lender, when you know it can cause so much misery to the tenants and their families. Why do you do that?

    We've been through this. You simplify things too much. The important thing is that the mortgage is paid and the landlord is financially secure. Letting tenants think that the consent to let guarantees a good rental is naive. No tenant is in a good position if the property is repossessed and the insolvency service are acting as landlord; they will only do essential H&S repairs. Likewise if a landlord has no funds - how will they replace a broken boiler? Landlords can use their properties for reasons other than mortgage repo's and tenants can be left in the lurch, better that the tenant is aware of this than is led to believe that CTL guarantees a long term secure tenancy. In any case CTL has a limited lifespan, a BTL mortgage is far more secure.
    I'm a Forum Ambassador on the housing, mortgages & student money saving boards. I volunteer to help get your forum questions answered and keep the forum running smoothly. Forum Ambassadors are not moderators and don't read every post. If you spot an illegal or inappropriate post then please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com (it's not part of my role to deal with this). Any views are mine and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.com.
  • smurf22
    smurf22 Posts: 2 Newbie
    I am renting and have been for 3 years, my toilet is blocked and has been since friday, my LL came to the property on sunday and said he can't find a problem yet there is now sewage puming through the sink :mad: I have told him I will be deducting money for each day it is out of action. He has told me someone entered my padlocked garden without our permission yesterday and could not find a problem. Legally where do I stand what are my rights as a tennant, I know him giving permission for someone to enter was illegal. Please help;)
  • RedSoleShoes
    RedSoleShoes Posts: 456 Forumite
    It is not "generally a good thing" for someone to have a 12 month fixed contract, only to then find out they have an illegal let and that the contract is not recognised by the mortgage lender. Tenants need to see proof that the potential landlord has received an in date Consent to Let from the mortgage lender and that they are not not behind with their mortgage payments.

    Most 12 month leases have a break clause anyway, so no tenant is secure for that long. And the let would not be seen as "illegal" if the LL was taken to small claims.

    Just because some has consent to let, doesn't mean they will not default on mortgage payments so a tenant seeing the "proof" is a waste of time.
  • silvercar
    silvercar Posts: 49,545 Ambassador
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    smurf22 wrote: »
    I am renting and have been for 3 years, my toilet is blocked and has been since friday, my LL came to the property on sunday and said he can't find a problem yet there is now sewage puming through the sink :mad: I have told him I will be deducting money for each day it is out of action. He has told me someone entered my padlocked garden without our permission yesterday and could not find a problem. Legally where do I stand what are my rights as a tennant, I know him giving permission for someone to enter was illegal. Please help;)

    You have reported a problem so you need to allow access to investigate the problem. He has a responsibility to sort the problem out in a timely manner. You refusing access will only delay his efforts at fixing it.
    I'm a Forum Ambassador on the housing, mortgages & student money saving boards. I volunteer to help get your forum questions answered and keep the forum running smoothly. Forum Ambassadors are not moderators and don't read every post. If you spot an illegal or inappropriate post then please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com (it's not part of my role to deal with this). Any views are mine and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.com.
  • RedSoleShoes
    RedSoleShoes Posts: 456 Forumite
    smurf22 wrote: »
    I am renting and have been for 3 years, my toilet is blocked and has been since friday, my LL came to the property on sunday and said he can't find a problem yet there is now sewage puming through the sink :mad: I have told him I will be deducting money for each day it is out of action. He has told me someone entered my padlocked garden without our permission yesterday and could not find a problem. Legally where do I stand what are my rights as a tennant, I know him giving permission for someone to enter was illegal. Please help;)

    Firstly, your post would get a better response in a different section, this thread is about whether your LL has permission to let.

    Secondly, why on earth are you having a mare about him trying to get in to fix the problem! He probably managed to get someone out last minute and as you weren't home, they went into the garden to check the drain to help you!

    Thirdly, you have been there 3 years so it is more than likely your fault that that drain is blocked. You should be more careful what you put down your toilet and plugholes.
  • ailey
    ailey Posts: 3,214 Forumite
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    Don't know if I can ask this question but I'm sure the moderator will not allow it if not. My questions is: Does anyone know of any flats in the centre of Edinburgh with 3 bedrooms, roomy and well furnished which has HMO for multiple occupancy. My son works in Edinburgh and his lease is coming to an end in a few weeks. He is looking to move in with 3 friends (2 being a couple) and a female friend. They are all working and are beyond student accommodation, being late 20s/early 30s. They have been looking and are being met with so many flats with do not have HMO. They are all decent, hardworking young people. Hopefully this question is allowed and someone can help. Many thanks.
    "For beautiful eyes, look for the good in others; for beautiful lips, speak only words of kindness; and for poise, walk with the knowledge that you are never alone."
  • cat13
    cat13 Posts: 2 Newbie
    my daughter went to countrywide lettings in prestatyn north wales to rent a property, they took £150 off her to secure the house even though she hadn't submitted the application, she needed a guarantor which i was to be but they informed me i didn't earn enough so she would need 2 guarantors, we were unable to get a second so went back to the agent and asked for the money back, they refused saying it was non refundable, the house isn't available for 3 weeks so there's no reason they can't still let the house but my daughter is now £150 out of pocket even though she never handed in the application, is this legal or should we seek legal advice?
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