Bailiffs to be allowed to use force on debtors.

Airwolf1

Part of the problem is probably all the bad debt that companies/banks etc have being written off from time to time. However, a different approach is needed to what is being proposed. I've read enough stories on here already about Bailiffs collecting for C/Tax etc. They would need severely watching over if this came to pass.

Generali

Winner wrote: »

Will Cameron throw this out? Its appalling for Labour to bring this in. And don't they bear responsibilities with all the stealth tax for moving large chunks of money from us which are unsustainable.

The congestion charge penalty that imposes punitive fines for just forgetting by a few days! They should have made it a £1 and fined you £5 a month if not paid. That way everyone would just want to pay it and not feel as completely ripped off with £60 and bailiffs on the way to restrain if you can't come up with that kind of cash. Good God what is this country coming to.

In Aus if you don't pay the toll it costs you $10/GBP4.

Ed_Zep

If the Conservatives intend winning the next election all they have to do is remind the electorate of how incredibly bad this government have been.

Of the three main parties I only like the LibDems but if they had a chance of winning they'd soon get infiltrated by people who want to deny our freedom.

harry_w

Winner wrote: »

Will Cameron throw this out? Its appalling for Labour to bring this in. And don't they bear responsibilities with all the stealth tax for moving large chunks of money from us which are unsustainable. ...

The Tories? They'll probably offer the bailiffs jump leads.

Or is it tazors these days?

lynzpower

Of the three main parties I only like the LibDems but if they had a chance of winning they'd soon get infiltrated by people who want to deny our freedom.

they only have a chance of winning if people like you ( and me of course) actually vote for them.

MRSTITTLEMOUSE

Ed_Zep wrote: »

If the Conservatives intend winning the next election all they have to do is remind the electorate of how incredibly bad this government have been.

Of the three main parties I only like the LibDems but if they had a chance of winning they'd soon get infiltrated by people who want to deny our freedom.

That sadly,is so true.
It's about time people realised that it's very rare to find a politician dedicated to his/her beliefs.Offer them the chance of power and they're anybody's.

LilacPixie

I'll probably vote SNP.

Firstly I can't stand labour, secondly tories rarley put up a candidate but I dislike them even more than labour.

I was watching something on saturday night and it was a clip of David Cameron after his push bike was stolen. He said ' I did have my bike lock attatached to my front wheel I just didn't consider that I should of also attatched it to something immovable' All i could think was trust the country to someone who cannot chain up a bicycle!! No chance.

olly300

Ed_Zep wrote: »

If the Conservatives intend winning the next election all they have to do is remind the electorate of how incredibly bad this government have been.

I wouldn't vote for the Conservatives in my area if you paid me. The candidate is a toff and has never held a proper job.

Ed_Zep wrote: »

Of the three main parties I only like the LibDems but if they had a chance of winning they'd soon get infiltrated by people who want to deny our freedom.

Like all political parties who realise they have a chance of power the powers that be will start choosing candidates that appeal to middle England, are career politicians first and have never held down a job.

Anyway I live in one of the few areas that has never, at least since the 70's and probably further back, had a Labour MP.

bigfatbelly

Anyone would think Labour were purposely trying to get themselves booted out by bringing this barbaric law in!

I can see blood and death on the streets if this was passed.:mad:

dopester

I've not been a massive spendaholic in the last 10 years, but even if bailiffs took what I'd bought in recent years, they'd only get a fraction of the value for them at any liquidation sale.

My 2006 LCD TV (36" - with a slight fault), my 3 desktop computers, my three PDAs (2001, 2004, 2005), digital cameras (2002 + 2006) washing machine, tumble drier, DVD collection, Playstation MK1, books, clothes, furniture, car, mountain bike, DIY tools (which I reckon unemployed tradesmen might now be sell off cheaply lesser used tools and depress prices further) food store...

I'm just thinking that, other than perhaps some big debtors who bought stuff which might hold price (jewellery and art maybe - although those markets are said to be crashing too), your average £10K, £20K, £50K debtor might have very little by way of possessions of real value to show for it.

Or very little which can be recovered from items taken for liquidation.

Also you've got retail stores slashing prices of brand new items as much as possible, to try and attract those at a level with disposable income to buy. Wouldn't a marked rise in liquidated sales of items taken through bailiffs only adds further to depress new prices?

That is the bad thing about buying new stuff. Most of it loses a lot of value. Especially designer clothes and technology stuff after a couple of years.

Maybe it would be worth bailiffs getting heavy with me for a bit of my stuff to take.. like some of our better furniture which could raise a few hundred pounds per item (maybe) - but it seems a lot of effort for very little return. Might just cover some small debts - if we had any, other than 1 thing on tick.

Not sure if it would be a similar situation for others, or whether you've bought classier items than us, which retain good resale value.