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Leaving Course....can I take Jan installments first then leave??!

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  • Probably because the number of jobs in teaching are dwindling every year. Unless it is maths, physics or chemistry teaching. In the last few years in the whole of my area (taking three councils into account) there were only two openings for teachers in my subject, both of which were for heads of department due to them retiring.

    As for the OP, taking the money even though you know you will be quitting university is fraudulent. The SLC are well within their rights to ask for the money back straight away, as you shouldn't have spent it all in the first couple of weeks.
  • You also get the issue with tution fees. Many unis charge the full year if you leave after one full term.

    If you are leaving on health grounds, then the unis/leas/SLC etc are normally more understanding on repaying stuff.

    However, defrauding the likes of SLC is a danagerous game, because while they are slow to catch on they can take you to the cleaners when they catch you. We're talking immediate repayment of everything (including you undergrad loans....), penality interest rates (backdated) so for the sake of a couple of grand its not worth the risk. Unless you've got something else lined up i'd stay on the course and actually earn you right to those loans/busaries.
  • poet123
    poet123 Posts: 24,099 Forumite
    Probably because the number of jobs in teaching are dwindling every year. Unless it is maths, physics or chemistry teaching. In the last few years in the whole of my area (taking three councils into account) there were only two openings for teachers in my subject, both of which were for heads of department due to them retiring.

    As for the OP, taking the money even though you know you will be quitting university is fraudulent. The SLC are well within their rights to ask for the money back straight away, as you shouldn't have spent it all in the first couple of weeks.

    Really:confused: in my area,there are lots of teaching jobs available and agency work. Similarly in Colleges,quite a few lecturing positions too. I guess it depends where you are in the country?

    My niece got her NQT last year and walked straight into a Y5 class role.
  • The_One_Who
    The_One_Who Posts: 2,418 Forumite
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    poet123 wrote: »
    Really:confused: in my area,there are lots of teaching jobs available and agency work. Similarly in Colleges,quite a few lecturing positions too. I guess it depends where you are in the country?

    My niece got her NQT last year and walked straight into a Y5 class role.

    It must, but I'm sure I was reading that it was same situation all across Scotland. There are more student teachers than there are jobs for in certain subjects.
  • It is naughty like, but anyone would do it. Walk away a week later perhaps?

    On teaching, there are lots of jobs going, you just need to be in the right subjects(not art/music/re) and be the best available.
    Even PE(!) has loads of jobs available, to the right candidates.
  • It is naughty like, but anyone would do it. Walk away a week later perhaps?

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    What a low opinion of people's honesty you have. I sincerely hope you're not going into teaching!
  • Mike1989
    Mike1989 Posts: 222 Forumite
    It is naughty like, but anyone would do it. Walk away a week later perhaps?

    On teaching, there are lots of jobs going, you just need to be in the right subjects(not art/music/re) and be the best available.
    Even PE(!) has loads of jobs available, to the right candidates.

    If I decide this week that I am not going to return to university, I would inform the SLC straight away. As sure you don't have to pay back the bursary, but you do have to pay back the loan and the tuition fees. So I would tell them straight away as I'm not that short of £733 (rough figure £2200 loan last year, three instalments, rough third) that I would have to pay back at some time in the future. As lets face it, in the current economic market you aren't going to get amazing savings rates. You maybe able to buy yourself a 360 on the cheap, buy some clothes, DVDs etc, but is it really worth taking the risk?

    Not really, but that is from a guy who doesn't take advantage of his interest free overdraft by putting it in a savings account...

    Out of interest, anyone know if secondary or college level history teaching is in demand or is over subscribed with too many teachers for too few jobs. Considering taking a post graduate course in history teaching or higher education.
  • Oldernotwiser
    Oldernotwiser Posts: 37,425 Forumite
    Mike1989 wrote: »

    Out of interest, anyone know if secondary or college level history teaching is in demand or is over subscribed with too many teachers for too few jobs. Considering taking a post graduate course in history teaching or higher education.

    I've been out of FE teaching for a few years now but I've never known any college to employ more than one history lecturer and they'd be likely to need another teaching subject to fill up their timeteble. Many colleges offer virtually no history and the most you're likely to find is a GCSE class, A level and perhaps Access teaching which is unlikely to fill your hours. Why not see if you can pick up some part time teaching at this level to see how you get on with it?

    If you do go down this route, remember that you can teach in FE with a PGCE but you can't teach in schools with an FE teaching qualification.
  • Mike1989
    Mike1989 Posts: 222 Forumite
    That's good to know, probably will apply for the PCGE. Did also consider primary/junior teaching but I heard off someone at college that it was harder to get into that level of education. But thanks, guy never mentioned to me that you could teach in FE with a PGCE.
  • poet123
    poet123 Posts: 24,099 Forumite
    There is also the GPT which is a school placement through local consortia and is paid. At the end of the 12 months you achieve NQT status in the same way as a PGCE. Priority is given to those with classroom expereince though,so it may be wise toget some paid or voluntary school expereince before applying. Google GTP to see if it operates in your area.
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