Crunch raises state school demand

before_hollywood

poet123 wrote: »

Your experience is not typical of all. And maybe the reason the "posh" kid didnt go to a private school was one of principle? people are allowed to spend their money however they see fit.

i dont see your point? my experience that a richer child that is child of a governer can beat up other kids as they see fit and not have anything done about it and the minute anyone else does the same they get in all kinds of !!!!! for much less.

michaels

I find the whole private education issue very difficult - those who say their children have achieved the same grades in the state sector are missing the point. Rather like the institutionalised racism in this country it is the accent, contacts and life outlook that the public school provides that a state school never can.

However it also seems unfair to me that those who send their children to public school first pay for the education in taxation and then again in fees - fairness would say that they should receive a credit for the amount that the state education would have cost. The problem though would be even worse negative selection - the more the best pupils are taken out of the state sector the worse the state schools become

(Alumni Swanmore Secondary School 5 A Levels grade A in 1988 when they were actually difficult and M.A Economics Cantab)

neverdespairgirl

before_hollywood wrote: »

never mixing with 'ordinary' kids?
parents that wont let them have state educated friends?
stuck up idiots as parents that look down on everyone else?

So no rational basis, then.

I was privately educated, and have never come across the above.

In fact, my OH went to a <gasp> COMP! And my parents even talk to him!

before_hollywood

neverdespairgirl wrote: »

So no rational basis, then.

I was privately educated, and have never come across the above.

In fact, my OH went to a <gasp> COMP! And my parents even talk to him!

i have justification for my opinions, i just choose not to broadcast it.

my ex went to being pc a fee charging school, i had the displeasure of their company for nearly 7 years, horrid vile people.

i know some people that went to the same school that are perfectly nice, others are not.

and excuse me, you went to private school, what do you know about rough inner city secondary moderns?

amcluesent

Fee-paying schools can take all sorts. Mine was streamed so that the academic children were able to concentrate. The 'tear-away' kids were corralled into other classes where they focussed on discipline. I suppose the parents sent their kids to the school rather than a bog-standard comp in the hope they wouldn't spiral down into drug use, teenage pregnancy and ending up in an approved school or borstal.

Of course we know realise that doing drugs, having a menagerie of kiddies and never lifting a finger is very sensible and you live very well on benefits.

Davesnave

In the primary school where I did most of my time, we received quite a number of 'posh' pupils, often because parents wanted them to have a wide social grounding before they headed off, post-eleven, to the fee-paying schools. That was a win-win situation as far as I was concerned.

I'm all for those who wish to give their children a good academic start in life, so long as this does not overly impinge upon the child's need for a childhood. Unfortunately, some children's lives are now so organised and controlled by adults seeking entrance exam or sporting success, that their normal development is suppressed. I often wonder how that plays out in later life.

Davesnave

I suppose the parents sent their kids to the school rather than a bog-standard comp in the hope they wouldn't spiral down into drug use, teenage pregnancy and ending up in an approved school or borstal.

My girls went to a local comp and I never imagined for a moment that either of them would spiral down into any of the things you mention. They didn't, though one of them now works with young people who are in danger of going off the rails.

The secret of enabling ones's child to survive modern-day life is not paying a large amount of money up-front by way of 'insurance,' but by having the right relationship with them. Setting an example is crucial too. That all starts on Day 1 and costs nothing, except time and effort.

mewbie_2

I wonder as the crunch hits what will go first? The kids education, or the 4 x 4?

Spendless

natalie1974 wrote: »

my daughter has always had an hour's homework each night from the age of 3 , now at the age of 8 she has at least 1.5 hours a night . No state school kids I know of have anything like this .

Is her school day shorter than a state school would be? Otherwise that's one long day for her with 1.5 hour commute plus homework.

Spendless

mumps wrote: »

I don't think what they are doing at this age relates to where they will be in the future. I didn't send my daughter to school until year 4. She left school last year with 6 A's at A level, including Maths, Further Maths, Physics, History, Psychology as well as General Studies. I think playing and enjoying life till she was nearly 9 was a great start in life and it doesn't seem to have done her any harm. Oh, when she did start school she went to the local primary school and then to the nearest state senior school I'm not sure what more she could have achieved if she had been sent to a private school or pushed at an early age. I'm not knocking your daughter, good for her if she's doing well, I just don't think it is necessary for kids to have to work too hard too young.

Do you mean you home educated her till year 4?