Crunch raises state school demand

natalie1974

mewbie wrote: »

Hey Natalie - chill. I wasn't aiming my post at you. I don't know anything about you. I do however know about wannabee chav types who think that by sending their little thugs to private school they can achieve some kind of strange one upmanship amongst their peer group. It is easy to spot the newly rich Mewed types with their Audis and BMW's, but with no class or brains - and I suspect that when times get tough and choices have to be made they will be the ones who decide that the car is more important than the kids education.

I know you weren't aiming at me personally , I am just saying that is me , I really don't care what anyone thinks about me , if you like me you like me , if you don't I really don't care .
Oh god I know what you mean , I come from Medway , home of the chav , and know many people who want to send their kids to private school yet they look like that lottery winner thug guy :rolleyes:

natalie1974

I don't have a fake tan either :rotfl:
One of the other mums though , my god , I wonder how she defies gravity and stays upright with her boobs ! And the tan , Katie & Peter are albinos compared to her ! Plastic Barbie doll with no brains to match .
I would like to think that I am down to earth , I don't flaunt what I have .

I will however make a confession , I DO want a Range Rover Turbo Sport 4x4 one day , its my dream car and I will own one one day but I will have to save hard , or get it on tick and a bloody good job to pay the monthly repayments !

globalds

michaels wrote: »

However it also seems unfair to me that those who send their children to public school first pay for the education in taxation and then again in fees - fairness would say that they should receive a credit for the amount that the state education would have cost. The problem though would be even worse negative selection - the more the best pupils are taken out of the state sector the worse the state schools become

Although a parent may chose to take their child out of state education this does not reduce the cost of education.
The state has to be able to provide this facility Just because someone chooses not to use it does not mean it does not have to be available.

Generali

globalds wrote: »

Although a parent may chose to take their child out of state education this does not reduce the cost of education.
The state has to be able to provide this facility Just because someone chooses not to use it does not mean it does not have to be available.

State education provision will be decided on the basis of usage not population. If the latter was the case then areas where more parents sent their kids to be privately educated would see smaller class sizes.

before_hollywood

natalie1974 wrote: »

I don't have a fake tan either :rotfl:
One of the other mums though , my god , I wonder how she defies gravity and stays upright with her boobs ! And the tan , Katie & Peter are albinos compared to her ! Plastic Barbie doll with no brains to match .
I would like to think that I am down to earth , I don't flaunt what I have .

I will however make a confession , I DO want a Range Rover Turbo Sport 4x4 one day , its my dream car and I will own one one day but I will have to save hard , or get it on tick and a bloody good job to pay the monthly repayments !

noooooooooooooooooooo not a range rover, it will turn you into one of them :eek:

i have a few dream cars (realistic ones) and a range rover is not on that list lol

Spendless

natalie1974 wrote: »

I own my own villa so only pay for flights (only cost us £50k brand new) , I live in a 2 bed house, I wear Primark , my mate cuts my hair for me , my Impreza doesn't cost a fortune to run , unlike most people think they do and 5 years ago I was a single mum on income support . I have met someone , had another daughter , now got a son on the way , OH works bloody hard for his wages and I was working until I fell pregnant . I will go back to work after having this baby . I don't live life like a WAG , if I want my Tiffany bracelet or Links of London bracelet , like I have , I get them for Christmas or Birthday's . What is wrong with having nice things and EARNING them . I personally don't give a flying **** what anyone thinks of me , what is important is my kid's education and that is why I send them to private school .

Will you be able to afford to privately educate all 3 children?

poet123

before_hollywood wrote: »

i dont see your point? my experience that a richer child that is child of a governer can beat up other kids as they see fit and not have anything done about it and the minute anyone else does the same they get in all kinds of !!!!! for much less.

My point was that you were deriding the "posh" kid for not going private when you thought that they had enough money to do so. Some people have money but choose state education,some have money but choose private education. I am not sure money,or the fact that the child had a parent who was a Governor is necessarily relevant. Some kids seemn to get away with murder(not literally) and others get caught for minor infringements. I think maybe you have seen a situation in a particular way and are now set in that perception,which may, or may not be, how it actually was.

michaels

PasturesNew wrote: »

It'll be back to how it was in my day: 30-40 to a class and one teacher per class. No classroom assistants and no one-to-one stuff going on.

And funnily enough it didn't seem to do us any harm - possibly cos the headmaster was able to dispense the slipper if need be or suspend / expel if required which gave the teachers authority and negated the whole 'crowd control' problem that seems to be the big issue these days.

Wow I do sound like an old reactionary but just seems to me that if we educate our kids from 3 to 21, work to very low pupil teacher ratios and pay salaries to make teaching comparable to other graduate careers then the share of income going on education would be huge, controversial I know but do we really need that much education for everyone given the jobs that are available?

Just to add that I would never send my kids private as I think it makes people think they are better than everyone else who didn't go private which I find obnoxious - easy for me to say though as I have chosen to live somewhere with very good state schools and pay the property price premium for doing so.

neverdespairgirl

Spendless wrote: »

Is her school day shorter than a state school would be? Otherwise that's one long day for her with 1.5 hour commute plus homework.

My (private) primary was 9am to 3.15pm, and my secondary school was 8.30am to 3.45pm.

neverdespairgirl

before_hollywood wrote: »

and excuse me, you went to private school, what do you know about rough inner city secondary moderns?

Nothing, as they ceased to exist quite some time before I was born, I think!