Crunch raises state school demand

natalie1974

poet123 wrote: »

I did think that my post was reasonably clear though....

Seriously , normally I would be ok but only had 2 hours sleep last night , spent 3 hours on the school run today and have a stomping headache plus pregnancy brain which combined together = thick as pig s**t ! :rotfl:

poet123

My children have been educated in both sectors(different children,own choices)and my youngest who is in the state sector has homework of around 1.5 hours per night in the first year at Secondary school. However,imo homework is not the benchmark of a good school. Other factors are more important.

olly300

natalie1974 wrote: »

my daughter has always had an hour's homework each night from the age of 3 , now at the age of 8 she has at least 1.5 hours a night . No state school kids I know of have anything like this .

I don't understand why you think giving a child a lot of homework makes them cleverer.

If you are parent who is interested in your child's development you would be doing educational things with them regardless of what the school is giving them.

Oh and I've talked to some teachers who have taught in both sectors and lots of the homework given at that age is to keep the parents happy.

the_other_mce

amcluesent wrote: »

Tracy got herself banged up at 14 and lives in care with little Candice. The 'baby father' Troy is doing bird for GBH on local drug dealer Shane.

weird - the 'Tracey' in my class went to hairdressing college, set up a little mobile business, then a shop. She now has a chain of salons and drives her kids to their private school in her brand new merc....
'Tarquin' is currently in rehab after a spell in prison.
Mind you I went to secondary school 20 years ago - maybe things have changed in that time.:rolleyes:

lady_lucan

caveman38 wrote: »

Evidence of what. BTW if my post fails to make sense, I am advocating private education.

Yes, obviously, but what I am asking is for evidence to back up your statement that private school students work harder.

In my experience working across a number of private and state secondary schools, the one thing that is superior in private is their ability to 'play' the coursework system.Much of the onerous work in this regard is carried out by classroom teachers, not students. It is not uncommon for a piece of GCSE coursework to be 're-marked' 8-10 times before it is submitted. In state schools there is simply not the staff/student ratio to do this.

natalie1974

olly300 wrote: »

I don't understand why you think giving a child a lot of homework makes them cleverer.

If you are parent who is interested in your child's development you would be doing educational things with them regardless of what the school is giving them.

Oh and I've talked to some teachers who have taught in both sectors and lots of the homework given at that age is to keep the parents happy.

Sorry , not come across very well , the more work they do the further ahead they get , my daughter is in year 4 but doing year 7 work , the stuff my mates kids are learning , all at different schools , is stuff my daughter has done at least 2 years ago . I personally couldn't give a monkeys wether she gets homework or not , so long as she keeps learning in school is all that bothers me .

caveman38

olly300 wrote: »

I don't understand why you think giving a child a lot of homework makes them cleverer.

If you are parent who is interested in your child's development you would be doing educational things with them regardless of what the school is giving them.

Oh and I've talked to some teachers who have taught in both sectors and lots of the homework given at that age is to keep the parents happy.

Natalies response was to my original post of the children having to graft more and not to her suggesting it made them cleverer.

Geenie

Most of the private schools are doing Ok where I live by what I have heard. There are also some excellent state grammers, but they are very selective and hence only get the very brightest and those able to buy into the housing around.....very expensive!

Even the Comps have higher and lower levels, though they won't publicise it of course, as all children are equal and open to the best teaching at all levels and years! :rolleyes:

The reality is that from what friends have told me, the gifted pupils have everything thrown at them to get top grades and keep the tables looking good, encouraged to take exams early and as many as possible to bolster their schools profile.

The average and struggling kids are left behind and don't get much attention or support on the same level.

lady_lucan

Geenie wrote: »

The average and struggling kids are left behind and don't get much attention or support on the same level.

In the comps I have worked in, the struggling kids have a fortune thrown at them in terms of Learning Support/extra staffing/resources etc; it is the average-to-brighter kids who are in class sizes approaching 35 in core subjects.

poet123

I agree,our local "failing" comp has just hired my English grad son to "coach" the lower abilitity set and "assist" with their GCSE coursework. He is in great demand,with two agencies competing to place him in state schools.