Would you consider emigrating if the recession gets really bad here in the UK?

treliac

olly300 wrote: »

Obviously someone who doesn't bother to visit the museums, galleries, theatres, gardens, parks, palaces, statues, national parks, listed buildings etc we have in this country.

In fact in most places in the UK you don't have to go far to see a bit of culture.

Or anti-culture. Outside most city-centre pubs and clubs on a Friday or Saturday night. :eek:

olly300

treliac wrote: »

Or anti-culture. Outside most city-centre pubs and clubs on a Friday or Saturday night. :eek:

Unfortunately that can be classed as the British/insert appropriate region of UK drinking culture.

themanbearpig

olly300 wrote: »

You may be surprised but as a European country the UK currently has one of the lowest tax regimes. Yes we have a lot of indirect taxes but a lot of these taxes are on things you have a choice on whether to buy or not.

Also by the time you have your ACA qualification the Labour government will be out. Brown may actually be elected due to the fact the opposition is Cameron but once the Tories find themselves a leader who is more capable Brown will be out.

Also most governments in the world are incompetent otherwise we wouldn't be in this global financial mess.

Pretty low for euroland maybe, but compared to other developed countries is terrible.
For example a newly qualified ACA candidate,
http://www.etaxjobs.com/candidate/job-newly-qualified-aca-hong-kong-36175-13-1.html?etjsid=1
360000-600000 HK$ is about £35000-£70000, which is the same as London salaries for this sector. BUT the highest Tax bracket is only 20%!!
Not to mention the lower cost of living (except property), and the much more pleasant climate!

I just can't stand the thought of giving 40% of my salary away to be wasted. Its just too much of a disincentive to work harder than everyone else.



The british culture is pretty sickening too. Just visiting a city in the evening on a weekend is shocking compared to mainland europe, we have a major problem with alcohol abuse. The British are the chavs of Europe, but too arrogant to notice. On my travels around europe, I actually found it embarrasing to say that I was british at times due to the not-so-great reputation the brits leave when they holiday abroad. Everyone in europe hates us.

neverdespairgirl

elisebutt65 wrote: »

I had an idyllic childhood that came abruptly to end in 1977 when we came back this horrible cold, wet, grey place.

My OH vividly remembers arriving at Heathrow when his family moved here from Israel.

He had been born and brought up in Tel Aviv, and not left Israel before. He was about 5, and arrived in London at 7pm on a December evening, when it was sleeting.

moggylover

themanbearpig wrote: »

I'm 21, and the way I see it is that my generation is going to have to pay heavily for the older generations greed. When I start working, I am going to be taxed to pay for all these stupid bailouts. Ontop of that I have to going to have a student loan of £17000.
My plan is to graduate next year, get an ACA training contract, become chartered, and move to Hong Kong.
I'm not going to stay in this miserable country as a highly skilled professional under such an incompetant government. I'm not going to pay for my student loan, and I am not going to get taxed so heavily to compensate the stupidity of the masses.

And sod those whose taxes paid for your education before that, and your health care!;)

Personally, I think you epitomise what is worst in many of the young people who have grown up with 15 years of boom time. Greed.

Who are you to think you are SO special that you deserve to get it all for free? One of the reasons that charges for University education originally came in to being is because when it was free, many left to earn more abroad without giving anything back to the Country that paid for their education (and many others could not even be bothered to turn up for lectures).

IMO we need to make it impossible for you and your ilk to leave the Country until you have cleared your debt:D. You should be utterly ashamed. Deeply and utterly ashamed!

neverdespairgirl

I rather like what Clive James had to say today about that Lapland theme park that closed down:

I won't go into further detail because the newspapers were full of it, but let's just say that, except from people who had been optimistic enough to actually buy tickets, a great laugh went up.


The great laugh told you two things. The first thing is that the British enjoy a bungle. They have come to see a bungle as part of their national identity: a tilting train that tilts too much or doesn't tilt at all, a Millennium Dome with not much in it, a Heathrow terminal that separates passengers from their luggage on a long-term basis, a Lapland theme park with snow-deficiency syndrome. How very British. One might even say that the nicest aspect of the British national identity is that the British can laugh at themselves.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7780108.stm

treliac

themanbearpig wrote: »

The british culture is pretty sickening too. Just visiting a city in the evening on a weekend is shocking compared to mainland europe, we have a major problem with alcohol abuse. The British are the chavs of Europe, but too arrogant to notice. On my travels around europe, I actually found it embarrasing to say that I was british at times due to the not-so-great reputation the brits leave when they holiday abroad. Everyone in europe hates us.

Sad, but true.

As for the rest of your post, it's pretty brazen to say you'll take whatever your home country has to offer and then turn your back on it.

novazombie

lynzpower wrote: »

you get a bit more in taiwan or so ive read

When you talk about POUNDS per hour Japan is the best, its easy to get a job teaching English and the starting wage is 30GBP per hour.

Once you have experience you can easily earn 50+ per hour.

This is so high because the yen is so strong and the pound is so weak.

From what I have found out you can get half that in Taiwan. Can I ask where you read that and how old the info was? The yen has shot up in value only recently so right now Japan is the place to be.

Its about 130yen to 1 pound now, but soon it will be 100yen/pound.

Only last year it was 270yen/pound.

Generali

A mate of mine earns about $20k in Saigon teaching English. He lives like a Maharajah.

3plus1

themanbearpig wrote: »

My plan is to graduate next year, get an ACA training contract, become chartered, and move to Hong Kong.
I'm not going to stay in this miserable country as a highly skilled professional under such an incompetant government. I'm not going to pay for my student loan, and I am not going to get taxed so heavily to compensate the stupidity of the masses.

I didn't have a student loan - why the hell should I pay off yours?

If that's the kind of attitude you have to money, then good luck landing a training contract as an accountant. I'm on a CA training contract myself and I can tell you now, that every professional body has a code of conduct that their members (accountants) have to abide by.

Doesn't matter if you train for the CA, ACA or ACCA. Being ethical tops the list of every professional body's code. To be brutally honest with you, it sounds as if you'd struggle.