Would you consider emigrating if the recession gets really bad here in the UK?

fc123

treliac wrote: »

Just seen your amended signature fc. S'pose it's because your name doesn't sound at all flowery or girly. Interesting how ingrained are our stereotypical assumptions.

My user name is rubbish because, when I found this forum (The Oracle) I didn't really understand the whole user name thing.......so used initials and numbers to register.
I don't even know how to change it.

And if I did, I can't think of another name......

ETA Pastures new knows what I look like and what I do...she could think of a nice one for me perhaps.

themanbearpig

I'm 21, and the way I see it is that my generation is going to have to pay heavily for the older generations greed. When I start working, I am going to be taxed to pay for all these stupid bailouts. Ontop of that I have to going to have a student loan of £17000.
My plan is to graduate next year, get an ACA training contract, become chartered, and move to Hong Kong.
I'm not going to stay in this miserable country as a highly skilled professional under such an incompetant government. I'm not going to pay for my student loan, and I am not going to get taxed so heavily to compensate the stupidity of the masses.

Masomnia

themanbearpig wrote: »

I'm 21, and the way I see it is that my generation is going to have to pay heavily for the older generations greed. When I start working, I am going to be taxed to pay for all these stupid bailouts. Ontop of that I have to going to have a student loan of £17000.
My plan is to graduate next year, get an ACA training contract, become chartered, and move to Hong Kong.
I'm not going to stay in this miserable country as a highly skilled professional under such an incompetant government. I'm not going to pay for my student loan, and I am not going to get taxed so heavily to compensate the stupidity of the masses.

Can you not leave now, so that I don't have to prop up any more of your greed when I graduate?

happylife

I lived in Australia for 2 years in the early ninetees and came back as my family were just too far away... I didn't emigrate but worked on a holiday visa and got an extension as I had skills they required... Great Country but could not live there,,. Or the USA..


I have the best of both worlds.. Now

Live in a great country England... and when I get cold hop over on a easy jet flight to my second home on the Costa Del sol... Bliss...

bubblesmoney

sometimes people can make a move and still be in the old place. some people i know work in uk part of the year and family lives abroad. they work in blocks on 15days or 3-6months in uk and rest of the time abroad with family. the way they look at it is that they work about 6m (or less or more as suits them) of the year earning uk pay (and paying uk taxes obviously before anyone jumps to the wrong conclusions). so essentially they work about 6m and have unpaid holiday 6m of the year but it still works out well for them as they live abroad in places with less living expenses than the uk. they get to have the extended family support for their family abroad when they are not around (if they originated from those places), they get to live half the year in the place they choose, they get to take advantage of the exchange rates (when it works in their favour) plus always have the option to relocate back to uk if things dont go according to plan as they will still have work experience in the uk job market. many work abroad for quite a few months as locums or part time during their holiday months as well. that way they can ensure they can fund their childrens education costs abroad easily or even in the uk if needed. the kids learn more languages as well and find it easier when it comes to international jobs that need more language skills etc. flitting between countries like this involves a lot of travelling but they do enjoy many months (i know of people working in uk for 2 week - 3m stints for many years & such stints in the uk and enjoying the rest of the time abroad and still earning the same/almost same salary from locum jobs as they would from a regular job in the uk) of holidays with family which they wouldnt be able to if they were in a regular job in any country. ofcourse this plan only works if there is a shortage for ur skills in the places that u seek work in. it wont work for all but for the people for whom it works they get to have their cake and eat it too. but they dont have the luxury of sick leave / other benefits that a regular employment gives and its their neck on the line if things go wrong financially, so they take calculated gambles. it works for some but wont for others.

i guess each person has their own reasons for emigrating or not. there is no right or wrong way and each one lives to enjoy or regret their choices. life is about living to the fullest where ever you are and about enjoying the journey rather than endlessly searching for that elusive goal called happiness. if they werent looking that hard for that elusive goal then people might realise that indeed they were happy but just kept looking at the other side of the fence. some people just like travelling and seeing places, so if it works for them then good for them, i dont understand why some others need to get hot under the collar for the life choices others make as long as it doesnt affect other peoples lives :beer:

3plus1

A couple of years ago, I lived and worked in France for about seven months. I miss my job, I miss my friends, I miss speaking French every day, I miss the local harmless crazy who rode the buses all day long and raised his cap every time I got onboard, I miss the TGV (best train system ever), I miss my banking advisor, I miss the cafe culture, I miss being able to buy a damn good bottle of wine for about £2 from the hypermarche, I miss the high standard of medical care, and I miss my town! Equally though, there are heaps of things I don't miss: the frequent strikes, the red tape, having to pay for every scrap of healthcare, the buses doing their last run at 7pm making getting around impossible at night, my five regular stalkers, my !!!!!!! of a landlord who refused to fix the boiler and left me without heating and hot water over the winter months... I could go on.

My point is, there are pros and cons to living in any country. If you stay put for long enough, you end up seeing the same flaws that exist in your home country. Across the civilised world, every country is about the same on balance. The only difference is, the UK is home. We might !!!!! about it enough, but this is where we're from and this is home to us.

On top of that, my lovely OH doesn't speak any foreign languages and I know he'll never pick up any. We could move somewhere where I spoke the language fluently, and he would support me, but I know he'd just end up miserable in the long run and I'm not prepared to do that to him.

Anyway, this recession is a global recession. It's going to be crap all over the world. I'm happy anywhere when the going is good, but when the going is !!!!, I'd rather stay on home turf and fight my battles there, where I know how things work.

olly300

themanbearpig wrote: »

I'm 21, and the way I see it is that my generation is going to have to pay heavily for the older generations greed. When I start working, I am going to be taxed to pay for all these stupid bailouts. Ontop of that I have to going to have a student loan of £17000.
My plan is to graduate next year, get an ACA training contract, become chartered, and move to Hong Kong.
I'm not going to stay in this miserable country as a highly skilled professional under such an incompetant government. I'm not going to pay for my student loan, and I am not going to get taxed so heavily to compensate the stupidity of the masses.

You may be surprised but as a European country the UK currently has one of the lowest tax regimes. Yes we have a lot of indirect taxes but a lot of these taxes are on things you have a choice on whether to buy or not.

Also by the time you have your ACA qualification the Labour government will be out. Brown may actually be elected due to the fact the opposition is Cameron but once the Tories find themselves a leader who is more capable Brown will be out.

Also most governments in the world are incompetent otherwise we wouldn't be in this global financial mess.

neverdespairgirl

jinkssick wrote: »

Things I hate:
-The lack of culture
-The lack of 'nice food', the staple diet is potato and most meals revolve around it
-The weather, oh the weather
-Crime is getting more frequent and a lot more violent
-Prices are sky rocketing and it seems things dont improve, including transport

Lack of culture? In what respect?

It seems to me that in London at any rate, you can eat out 3 times a day for a year, in a different place each time, and never have to consume a spud.

I love the weather. It's varied, but never too bad.

Public transport in London is very much better than it used to be.

elisebutt65

Anyone who was around in the 70's will remember what happened then with the economy, taxation, 4 day working weeks, strikes etc. What happened was a brain drain -similar to what happened straight after the war, when thousands of skilled professionals emigrated to the US to get a better standard of life over there.

My family upped sticks for most of the seventies, purely to get away from the awful economic situation and followed my Dad to places like Borneo and Bahrain. We stayed home when he went to Nigeria cos of the violence. I had an idyllic childhood that came abruptly to end in 1977 when we came back this horrible cold, wet, grey place:rotfl::rotfl:.

Have to say that travelling around the world at the minute is looking like a very attractive option, especially when you factor in the weather. I just spotted some teaching jobs in Oman and if it wasn't for the fact that the kids need to see their Dad's, I think I'd be off like a shot:o

England isn't really all that bad though - just blooming cold and wet. The economy is going to pretty bad no matter what country you're going to unless it's in the UAE or similar, but no need to emigrate - just take 6 months contracts working abroad and pop back occasionally.

olly300

neverdespairgirl wrote: »

Lack of culture? In what respect?

Obviously someone who doesn't bother to visit the museums, galleries, theatres, gardens, parks, palaces, statues, national parks, listed buildings etc we have in this country.

In fact in most places in the UK you don't have to go far to see a bit of culture.