Britain has gone mad - Labour 'most trusted' on economy!

SGE1

drbeat wrote: »

ahh...right with that in mind I'll knock the Brown knocking on the head with this SG1 guy/girl. Pointless arguing the toss wuth a Nu Labourite.

How very open-minded of you :rolleyes:

handful

SGE1 I admire your loyalty but fail to see how you can believe that GB is not to blame in any way for the crisis we are in. More worrying for me are the pathetic attempts he has made to try and ensure we only suffer a shallow and short lived recession. Everybody now understands that the recession has been caused by overinflated house prices and an economy built on credit. In other words, too much spending and not enough production.

So GB's solution is to get people who can't afford it to spend and then to tax production in the form of future and permanent tax rises. So more of the same then.

For those still in work, the recession now is the least of our worries, wait and see what we have to live with in a couple of years when it's payback time and huge tax rises coincide with an inevitable period of high inflation. What does GB think will happen IF his plan were to work and people start to buy houses again on low fixed starter rates. In a couple of years we would see a repeat of the current crisis but with even more repossessions. The medicine we need is fairly unpalatable but things must be allowed to find their true level without artificial assistance.

GB is now so far away from the New Labour manifesto not only does he not have a mandate but his party has now joined him.

drbeat

SGE1 wrote: »

How very open-minded of you :rolleyes:

Well from reading your previous posts you come over as rather naive and a bit of a know it all too. But then again that doesn't surprise me as you're 23 years in age and fresh out of uni. I remember being 21 and fresh out of uni after studying Politics and Economics and like you I thought I knew it all. I'd have been better off studying History as there is more truth in that subject!

As time goes on one suddenly realises that politics will never be the solution to the problems we as human beings face!

Sorry to break that to you.

nickmason

SGE1 wrote: »

You say you're in local politics - I assume, a councillor? Or working in a constituency office? Either way, I'm sure you won't argue that the pressures on the PM are somewhat more elevated that they are on you, so the implications of apologies won't be the same.

Councillor. Agreed that the pressures on the PM are hugely more elevated, but not sure that there's any reason why that exceptionalism should suggest honesty (aka apologies) is not allowed.

This is a cheeky open goal, but today Brown could have apologised about his savour of the universe line, rather than (a quote from BBC website)
'Asked at a government briefing later whether Mr Brown had meant to say he had saved the world, his spokesman said: "The prime minister has been reflecting on helping hardworking families through the downturn." '
This stonewalling doesn't cut it with anyone.

SGE1 wrote: »

And I don't mind the ad hominem comments - though I assure you all you won't catch me as an MP, it's a rotten job, and the money's not even great, considering how much work is involved. My career (all 18 months of it anyway ) has slightly diversified since anyway.

:beer:

SGE1

drbeat wrote: »

Well from reading your previous posts you come over as rather naive and a bit of a know it all too. But then again that doesn't surprise me as you're 23 years in age and fresh out of uni. I remember being 21 and fresh out of uni after studying Politics and Economics and like you I thought I knew it all. I'd have been better off studying History as there is more truth in that subject!

As time goes on one suddenly realises that politics will never be the solution to the problems we as human beings face!

Sorry to break that to you.

Hmm. I've never claimed to know it all, I'm just confident in my opinions. There's a difference. And I don't think I'm particularly naive.

And ironically, History was my undergraduate degree - politics and economics was all postgraduate

SGE1

nickmason wrote: »

This is a cheeky open goal, but today Brown could have apologised about his savour of the universe line, rather than (a quote from BBC website)
'Asked at a government briefing later whether Mr Brown had meant to say he had saved the world, his spokesman said: "The prime minister has been reflecting on helping hardworking families through the downturn." '
This stonewalling doesn't cut it with anyone.

I don't doubt that. That's probably a flaw in his personality. But again, that doesn't bother me too much...

Cloudane

Desperation. Look at the choices:

Labour - ruined the economy. Has PMs who act like dictators.
Tories - ruined the country. Full of weird pantomime clowns (Boris) and pretentious leaders who adapt, nay even u-turn, to whatever's cool with the kids (Cameron) and probably can't be trusted as far as you can throw them.
Lib dems - like the newb who has been lurking on the messageboard for several decades and posted once to say "lol your all gay" before returning back to lurking. Would you trust someone with 1 post to become the new board admin?

So... agh... 'most trusted' is pretty much a case of rolling a dice!

drbeat

And of course all people that are confident in their opinions also hmm a lot too?

You say you are confident in your opinions but what are they are based on? Life? Well you've yet to experience that! So try your opinions on the people who are suffering from Brown's past decisions/policies. And then move onto other people who were shafted in the 80s, 90s and are now being shafted again. After listening to the rants of such people I'm sure your years spent at some exclusive educational establishment will seem rather out of phase to the realities of life. Politics and economics is bull$hit and has never solved anything!

You should have continued with History.

lostinrates

SGE1 wrote: »

These are all valid points. I am perhaps slightly closer to the current establishment than most people, and this might be why I'm convinced that this Government is right. .

Good for you!

But I think thats a bold assumption to make when we are all anonymous here.

lostinrates

drbeat wrote: »

You say you are confident in your opinions but what are they are based on? Life? Well you've yet to experience that! .

TBF, youth doesn't preclude intelligence and the right to opinion.

That said, if the poster is 23 and completed post grad education in a normal timeframe I think the point about naivity might stand. (and apply it to my self with some years on that too:o )