Private Parking Tickets discussion

taffy056

BLT wrote: »

A tad pointless asking that question on this thread. There is no such thing as rogue parking to the regulars on here, unless a car parks in front of their own house.

If you want to stop people parking when and where they want, regardless of the impact on the surrounding environment or the inconvenience to residents (excepting themselves) you are clearly not being reasonable.

I often wonder how vociferously these people would complain if they drove 5 miles to their nearest superstore only to find the car park full of people who had parked up and gone into town for the day, happy in the knowledge that they couldn't be ticketed

I am clearly in the minority in that I park in car parks, pay for my ticket and set my phone alarm to make sure I am back at least 15 minutes before the end time.

So who says there is no such thing as rogue parkers ? There are many options to stop people parking without resorting to clampers or PPCs for example barriers, bollards, gates, chains or simply by asking people not to park there!

And how do you know that people parking in a car park are not shopping at that shop ? Lets face it a large majority of people use it as intended, and that most supermarket car parks always have spaces, perhaps you are one of those who drive around looking for spaces for 10 minutes to get as close to the doors as possible, perhaps parking and walking would help with the obesity problems you may have ?

By the way the majority of people here actually pay for tickets, encourage others to do the same, and park correctly to avoid the scammers victimising you, but these people like to harass people and they ticket for the most trivial of things, like a disabled badge facing the wrong way on a dashboard, or in hospitals where staff display their passes, but get tickets for being out of a bay slightly!

Suppose you dion't have answers to the situations above , do you ?

Coblcris

BLT wrote: »

A tad pointless asking that question on this thread. There is no such thing as rogue parking to the regulars on here, unless a car parks in front of their own house.

If you want to stop people parking when and where they want, regardless of the impact on the surrounding environment or the inconvenience to residents (excepting themselves) you are clearly not being reasonable.

I often wonder how vociferously these people would complain if they drove 5 miles to their nearest superstore only to find the car park full of people who had parked up and gone into town for the day, happy in the knowledge that they couldn't be ticketed

I am clearly in the minority in that I park in car parks, pay for my ticket and set my phone alarm to make sure I am back at least 15 minutes before the end time.

Did not a supermarket recently experience this ?
The car park was filled with people who stayed all day.
The result was very predictable.
The PPC was ejected.

trisontana

After last week's article about private parking in the Sunday Times, there are four excellent follow-up letters in today's addition of the paper. One points out that yellow lines mean nothing on private property, and another questions the role of the DVLA in giving out information to PPCs.

lucylucky

BLT wrote: »

A tad pointless asking that question on this thread. There is no such thing as rogue parking to the regulars on here, unless a car parks in front of their own house.

If you want to stop people parking when and where they want, regardless of the impact on the surrounding environment or the inconvenience to residents (excepting themselves) you are clearly not being reasonable.

I often wonder how vociferously these people would complain if they drove 5 miles to their nearest superstore only to find the car park full of people who had parked up and gone into town for the day, happy in the knowledge that they couldn't be ticketed

I am clearly in the minority in that I park in car parks, pay for my ticket and set my phone alarm to make sure I am back at least 15 minutes before the end time.

Can you back up the statement that regular posters believe there is no such thing as a "rogue parker"?
Not sure why you think posters who dislike PPC scum are unreasonable?
I doubt very much that you are in the minority when it comes to paying for car parking, I have not seen advice on here by anyone that advocates avoiding legitimate charges.

Why do you pay for parking and then not use the time you have paid for? Seems daft to me.

Oopsadaisy

Generalising.....

Most people on here say 'ignore PPCs'...whatever the circumstances of the post.

Some imply that if you have a parking problem it's somehow your fault... and the only remedy is you should install a barrier and card system.

They say that if someone parked on their drive...they would move/clamp/burn/damage/block in the problem car [ie do as I say not as I do].

Many do pay for the tickets...even in private car parks [some never pay].

Some deliberately seek out PPC tickets....to cost the PPCs money.

Some trot out Scotland as the dreamland...because "clamping is illegal and there haven't been millions of people killed by such a ban. so it must be working".

Some get hung up on incorrectly using the word 'fine'.

Some get hung up on people asking the same question that was answered 3 posts before [that's me, BTW]

The general feeling is typically anti-PPC, anti-landowner, anti-paying [whatever the circumstances], ban clamping, park where you want, I know the law, trying to be helpful and sometime a bit sarky [oops, that's me again].

HTH you understand the forum.

taffy056

I don't think its anti landowner at all, just that if you have land that is used as a car park to use intelligent ways to protect it, that comes to the next point, is there truly abuse there enmasse like the PPCs want you to believe, they just want your business of course they say there's a problem!

Is it abuse of a car park to stay there for 3 hours instead of 2 if you are shopping there? There is a retail centre called parc forestfach near me, it has about 20 shops, its off a main road but nowhere near the town centre and there is no way that people would be parking there unless shopping, they have a ppc there, my question is why ?

I do think that clamping should go, there is no redemption with a vast majority them, they have cut their own throats, the same is the fate for the PPCs but I think its going to be not from the government, but the public learning that its a scam through websites like this, and landowners realising that they are in fact the problem not the solution!

Finally are there parking rogues? Of course there are, but they are vastly the minority most people are considerate parkers and do obey the rules if they are fair!

Coupon-mad

We are generally NOT anti-landowner (with the exception of landowners who clamp cars themselves, like that well-known idiot who gets a friend to hand over a ticket with time still on it and then clamps the victim's car for 'using someone else's ticket'...).

Nothing against landowners at all but they do need to understand that a gate or barrier makes a lot more sense than allowing a protection racket to harass your tenants/visitors/customers.

Retailers should know better than to bite the hand that feeds. It's simple. :mad:

peter_the_piper

And would pay a reasonable charge for an infraction if it was sensible.

backfoot

BLT wrote: »

A tad pointless asking that question on this thread. There is no such thing as rogue parking to the regulars on here, unless a car parks in front of their own house.

If you want to stop people parking when and where they want, regardless of the impact on the surrounding environment or the inconvenience to residents (excepting themselves) you are clearly not being reasonable.

I often wonder how vociferously these people would complain if they drove 5 miles to their nearest superstore only to find the car park full of people who had parked up and gone into town for the day, happy in the knowledge that they couldn't be ticketed

I am clearly in the minority in that I park in car parks, pay for my ticket and set my phone alarm to make sure I am back at least 15 minutes before the end time.

I think that's a total misrepresentation of what this part of the forum is about.

I joined in the discussions, because being a victim of the Parking Gestapo, I was curious to find out my rights and the legal background to these tickets. I was angered to receive a false request for payment of £90 for actually abiding by the 'rules'.

Once you look into it and actually think about it,any of these punitive invoices make no sense whatsoever for the minor or non existent infringements to which they nearly always relate.

I don't ever park with out paying, nor use disabled bays, but I do strongly object to people running outfits whose sole intention is to make profit under the very tenous guise of parking control. The evidence is quite clear from nearly all the original threads posted on here by similarly aggrieved people.I also strongly object to the subsequent intimidating tactics that are used to frighten often vulnerable people.

Then by extention, I also object to the growth of controlled time limits on free car parks. There may be some abusers, but essentially the ones caught in the trap are the one off innocent victims falling foul of a simple mistake,forgetfulness or even enjoying themselves shopping.They are the ones asking for help.

I live by a school, and every day we get hundreds of cars moving by us. Some block our drive for a short while and it can get annoying if we have to leave. What can we do? I use a polite word to explain what's happened and the matter is always resolved. I explain it's private property and no one ever has individually repeated the problem. You see that's all it really takes.

Please think about what you have said. So far your own diligence has kept you free from being a victim of these unscrupulous people. I would have thought the same for me, but it doesn't always work out like that or is as simple as always returning perfectly 15 minutes before time.

The passionate people who try and help out other people who can't afford or resent these unfair charges are doing a good job. I know which side of the divide I would rather represent.:)

lucylucky

Oopsadaisy wrote: »

Generalising.....

Most people on here say 'ignore PPCs'...whatever the circumstances of the post.

Some imply that if you have a parking problem it's somehow your fault... and the only remedy is you should install a barrier and card system.

They say that if someone parked on their drive...they would move/clamp/burn/damage/block in the problem car [ie do as I say not as I do].

Many do pay for the tickets...even in private car parks [some never pay].

Some deliberately seek out PPC tickets....to cost the PPCs money.

Some trot out Scotland as the dreamland...because "clamping is illegal and there haven't been millions of people killed by such a ban. so it must be working".

Some get hung up on incorrectly using the word 'fine'.

Some get hung up on people asking the same question that was answered 3 posts before [that's me, BTW]

The general feeling is typically anti-PPC, anti-landowner, anti-paying [whatever the circumstances], ban clamping, park where you want, I know the law, trying to be helpful and sometime a bit sarky [oops, that's me again].

HTH you understand the forum.

What a shame you have misunderstood the majority of the posts on this and similar threads.

Who is anti-landowner?
Who is anti-paying for parking?

PPC are scum - I am sure we can all agree on that.;)

HTH you understand your ignorance of the forum.