HD or HD ready tv

DCFC79

anewhope wrote: »

In that case I'd look at your viewing distance and compare it with one of the charts and find out which size panel falls into it. There's no point getting a 32" 1080p tv if you sit nine feet away from it, you'd be more wise to buy a good and cheaper 720p set than just buying into numbers.

i was just trying to understand 1080p and 1080i, thanks though

DCFC79

aliEnRIK wrote: »

Everything used to be 1080i or 720P
But bluray is actually recorded in 1080P, so to watch blurays without any form of conversion you would need a 1080P tv

so if im not interested in blu ray dvds then would i need a tv with 1080i

aliEnRIK

DCFC79 wrote: »

so if im not interested in blu ray dvds then would i need a tv with 1080i

Not at all
1080P will display 1080i no problem
Also, contrary to popular belief, the differences between 1080i and 1080P are virtually indistinguishable
The reason there are 2 formats is because with interlaced, the tv has to form the 2 halves together (1 half every 50th of a second), which on a poor tv will show up (usually as 'flickering' or just not as 'sharp'). But on a decent tv, the difference would be VERY hard to tell.
Blu ray is actually 24 frames per second (Dont ask me why, sounds crazy to me), so tvs with 1080P capability have to have a whole new circuit in just to run it at that timeframe (Or ones thats capable). My pioneer for example has a 100Hz for Pal 720P and 1080i, and 75Hz (Which doesnt work out right so Im really not sure why), to display 1080P and all NTSC material.
Ergo, 2 tvs the same price, made by the same manufacturer, one 1080i and one 1080p. The 1080i one will probably look better as more money has gone into 1 good circuit.
Equally, if a 720P is ALSO the same price, then that will probably look better than both 1080s, as more money has been invested into all the internal components.

almillar

If a TV in a shop in the UK is allowed to have an 'HD Ready' sticker on it, it must:
1. Be capable of showing at least 720 vertical lines
2. Have at least 1 HDCP port.
That's it.
As in, if you buy one and take it home and plug a freeview box in, it's not HD, it's HD ready. If you plug in a Sky HD box, and watch an HD channel, then you've got HD.

DCFC79

aliEnRIK wrote: »

Not at all
1080P will display 1080i no problem
Also, contrary to popular belief, the differences between 1080i and 1080P are virtually indistinguishable
The reason there are 2 formats is because with interlaced, the tv has to form the 2 halves together (1 half every 50th of a second), which on a poor tv will show up (usually as 'flickering' or just not as 'sharp'). But on a decent tv, the difference would be VERY hard to tell.
Blu ray is actually 24 frames per second (Dont ask me why, sounds crazy to me), so tvs with 1080P capability have to have a whole new circuit in just to run it at that timeframe (Or ones thats capable). My pioneer for example has a 100Hz for Pal 720P and 1080i, and 75Hz (Which doesnt work out right so Im really not sure why), to display 1080P and all NTSC material.
Ergo, 2 tvs the same price, made by the same manufacturer, one 1080i and one 1080p. The 1080i one will probably look better as more money has gone into 1 good circuit.
Equally, if a 720P is ALSO the same price, then that will probably look better than both 1080s, as more money has been invested into all the internal components.

ok thanks for your help alienrik,

[Deleted User]

It's worth mentioning that not all console games are 1080p nativly and the console will upscale them to fit the resolution in the same way it would a dvd movie.

aliEnRIK

No worries

just be aware that all this is just 'generalised'

Look for reviews (And if possible ~ 'longevity' of a product)
Pioneer are the best tvs in the world (But also expensive)
If you buy a Panasonic or a Sony you cant go wrong
Some Samsungs are pretty good too

Whatever you do.......DONT go off 'specs'
Theyre completely meaningless as to the ACTUAL quality of a tv

For example, LG products in particular, tend to have 'off the wall' specsheets. But in reality, the pictures are c*ap as theyve spent so much money getting the high specs (Which are usually taken with a 'pinch of salt' anyways), that they skimp on the other parts

thor

jaydeeuk1 wrote: »

If they're feeding the TV with SD broadcasts, then you won't see an improvement..

You know with all the hype about HD I thought that this must be the answer but then why would any shop not want to show off their HD sets with the best possible picture by using a blu ray player. I could have asked but I hate being assailed by shop salesmen(no doubt telling me that I need HD)

donny-gal

So in simple facts then, if you just want to update your tv, and you have standard sky and or a digibox/aerial, and do not intend to the Freesat or SkyHD, then any HD ready tv is OK, obviously checking out reviews and you like the picture, though preferably one which can dial in to freeview channels, or can they all do that?

DG

jaydeeuk1

thor wrote: »

You know with all the hype about HD I thought that this must be the answer but then why would any shop not want to show off their HD sets with the best possible picture by using a blu ray player. I could have asked but I hate being assailed by shop salesmen(no doubt telling me that I need HD)

I'd like to think its because the shop knows that most customers will be viewing SD material, and to give a fair comparison all sets will be showing SD content to allow the customer to make a decision based on what they'll be watching most.

In reality, most are complete morons so either can't afford / aren't able to send HD content to each TV, don't realise its SD content, or purposely make the budget TV have a crap(er) picture, whilst directing a custmer to a highend model with a better feed that they can't afford.

Or perhaps I'm too cynical.