HPC if there's a BNP member in your street?

luvpump

!!!!!! !! I cannot believe this is STILL going !!! ... This subject is sooo off topic its not true !!... This forum can on occasion be quite hostile enough, without adding the poisonous cocktail of Politics !!
In my experiance you never win an argument where feelings a very high,& just end up winding yourself up, so best just to let it be & use the ballot box to vent your feelings in the way it was intended......all i will say however is........
God save Democracy & freedom of speech !!! Goodnight

Moon_Boi

meester wrote: »

Appeal judges have reserved a ruling over whether transport operator Serco was right to dismiss a BNP councillor as a health and safety risk.

His bosses said he, or the vehicles he was using, might be attacked, risking injury to the disabled people being transported.
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A DJ at radio station Talksport has been sacked for being on the BNP members list that was leaked online.

Shock jock DJ Rod Lucas was ousted from the station just days after it sacked outspoken fellow presenter Jon Gaunt ironically for branding a council worker a "Nazi".
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A police officer who wore a BNP badge when he was off duty has been forced to resign, Greater Manchester Police said today.
Pc Stuart Janaway, who once saved the life of a shooting victim by administering first aid, wore the badge of the far-right party at a football match in Manchester two years ago.

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Asian man jailed for killing BNP neighbour
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Mark Walker’s brother, Adam, is due to appear before England’s General Teaching Council in Birmingham next month and faces being struck off the teaching register.

He left his job at Houghton Kepier Sports College, Houghton-le-Spring, Wearside, last year after using a school computer to join an online discussion forum about the BNP.
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Theatre ditches BNP volunteer drama teacher

A Kent drama teacher has been ousted from her job following revelations that she has worked as a volunteer for the British National Party.
Emma Chamberlain, drama co-ordinator for the Astor Theatre in Deal near Dover, has been informed by the venue that her contract will not be renewed. The move comes shortly after local press reports showed Chamberlain fronting the political party’s online television service BNPtv and interviewing leading party members including Mark Collett, the former chairman of the BNP’s youth wing.
The organisation’s decision to remove Chamberlain from her position comes despite insistences from management at the venue that her political beliefs had not affected her work and widespread praise for the level of results she has achieved. The theatre’s website reports a 100% pass rate in London Academy of Music and Dramatic Art accredited examinations for children in her classes, which involve youngsters aged up to 14
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A teacher who stood for the British National Party in a recent by-election has "no place in the teaching profession", a teachers' union says. The NASUWT union has contacted Derby City Council expressing concern that Clive Jones is actively working in a pupil referral unit in the city.
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A male police officer in Merseyside is the first alleged BNP member to face consequences at his job after the far-right party's full membership list was leaked online.
Police called in independent investigators today after the officer's name, occupation and contact details were listed among more than 12,000 BNP supporters on an internet blog posted on Sunday night.
The Independent Police Complaints Commission said that it was waiting for official referral of the complaint about the Merseyside officer.
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Every police force in the UK was tonight scouring the leaked British National party membership list for names of serving officers, after the Merseyside force confirmed it was investigating one officer's links to the far-right party.
The Prison Service pledged to oust any employee on the list and far-right supporters spoke of fear for their livelihoods as the BNP was plunged into crisis.

Scotland Yard, Surrey and West Yorkshire police also confirmed that they were studying the list, and the Association of Chief Police Officers said it expected every other force to follow suit.

A detective inspector serving in the professional standards department of a Midlands force, who was checking the list against his force personnel records, said: "Even people on the list who are lapsed members of the BNP, or who have just approached the party expressing an interest in joining, will be of interest to us."

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THE president of the Royal Institute of British Architects called for members of professional organisations to declare their formal political interests yesterday after a candidate to succeed him was exposed as a member of the British National Party.
Jack Pringle, the institute’s president, said that industry bodies should consider the implications of being led by members with undeclared political affiliations. Peter Phillips caused uproar among architects after confirming that he had been a member of the BNP for five years, and had previously stood as a candidate for the right-wing party in a council election
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Members of the British National Party should not apply for jobs in the fire service as there is no place for racists or bigots, a chief fire officer said in a report released today.
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The Home Office is considering whether to ban BNP members from working in the civil service.
Martin Narey, the government's diversity champion, is working on the issue but no decision has been taken.
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Local authorities can legally refuse to employ members of the extreme right-wing British National Party, according to an industrial tribunal.
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The European Court of Human Rights has upheld a union's decision to expel a British National Party (BNP) activist.
The train drivers' union Aslef threw out Jay Lee, from Bexley, London, as he was an active member of the party.
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Firefighters who belong to the British National Party will be sacked - because brigade chiefs fear they might racially discriminate in a life or death blaze.

Gloucestershire Fire Service is the first in the UK to say it will ban BNP members from joining and Anyone suspected of belonging to the BNP will be quizzed by brigade officials and sacked if they are found to be a signed-up member.
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A shop worker, who was sacked by a DIY store after he stood as a candidate for the British National Party (BNP), has reached an undisclosed settlement with the store.
Kevin Scott was dismissed in June by B&Q, where he worked in the gardening department of their Scotswood Road store in Newcastle-upon-Tyne.

This is GOOD news, what's your problem?

silvercar

luvpump wrote: »

!!!!!! !! I cannot believe this is STILL going !!! ... This subject is sooo off topic its not true !!... This forum can on occasion be quite hostile enough, without adding the poisonous cocktail of Politics !!
In my experiance you never win an argument where feelings a very high,& just end up winding yourself up, so best just to let it be & use the ballot box to vent your feelings in the way it was intended......all i will say however is........
God save Democracy & freedom of speech !!! Goodnight

The irony of quoting freedom of speech in a post to close the thread!:rotfl:

amcluesent

This thread isn't OT, the premise was that in the current repressive political climate, what will be the effect on house prices of having a member of the BNP living next door. I mean will it be worse than EEs, chavs or carnies coming into the Avenue?

luvpump

silvercar wrote: »

The irony of quoting freedom of speech in a post to close the thread!:rotfl:

Yeah.. point taken .. but not an endless debate on here !!! .. ya know MSE .. , house prices etc etc.. nite

RichyRich

StevieJ wrote: »

the BNP are taking advantage of the human right legislation that they oppose

The law applies equally to all, irrespective of whether they agree with it[STRIKE] or are racist idiots.[/STRIKE] This means we are bound by the burden laws to which we may not agree, but equally, we are all entitled to the benefit of those same laws. It would be unfair to say to a person: "You are bound by the obligations under this law", but then say, "You may not take the benefit from any law that you oppose" :rolleyes:

bo_drinker

luverlyjuberly wrote: »

Today's BNP "dirty dozen" are:

1. Tony Lecomber, prominent in the BNP hierarchy, served three years in jail for a nail bomb plot. He got another three years in 1991 for stabbing a Jewish teacher and has 12 convictions in all.
2. Kevin Scott, BNP organiser in the North East, has convictions for assault and threatening behaviour.
3. Paul Harris, 41, BNP council candidate in Barnsley was convicted of using threatening behaviour towards a pensioner.
4. Jason Douglas, one of the BNP's leading candidates in the Greater London local elections, is a convicted football hooligan.
5. Warren Bennett, the BNP's chief steward, is also a convicted football hooligan.
6. Stephen Belshaw, who stood for the BNP in Amber Valley, East Midlands, was convicted in 1994 of attacking a Jewish solicitor.
7. Colin Smith, BNP South East London organiser. 17 convictions for burglary, theft, stealing cars, possession of drugs and assaulting a police officer.
8. Darren Dobson, BNP council candidate in Oldham. Convicted of racially aggravated assault at Oldham magistrates in November 2001.
9. Frank Forte, BNP member in Waltham Forest, convicted of Actual Bodily Harm in 1989.
10. Paul Thompson, former BNP organiser for Durham and Darlington convicted of criminal damage after an attack on a book shop in Durham. Also convicted for violence after attacking football fans.
11. Neil Keilty, BNP member, whose convictions since 1987 include criminal damage, possession of an offensive weapon and threatening behaviour.
12. Gary Mitchell former Sunderland BNP secretary, convicted of racist attacks and possession of offensive weaponry.

Looks like they need to clean up their act then doesn't it. At the end of the day it is (at present) a free country.

StevieJ

geoffky wrote: »

they......they have done this to their own people in their own country..history shows us what fascists are capable of doing..belson ring a bell and then for decades until it became law THEY denied it ever happened.. oh what fun it would be if they ever got power

I don't agree with it being illegal to question a period of history, that is just playing into the hands of the far right (and the show trials eg Irving), something like Hitler burning the books.

meester

Moon_Boi wrote: »

This is GOOD news, what's your problem?

Somebody doing a good job who has their employers abuse illegally leaked data to find out that they privately joined the BNP ending up unemployment is not good news.

People are entitled to join the BNP for whatever reason they feel fit, it doesn't mean they spend their time throwing bricks through Asian neighbours' windows.

Many of the BNP's policies are actually popular:

A majority of people back the British National Party's policies, according to a poll released today.
But the YouGov survey found that many people disown the policies once they are associated with the BNP.
It found that 59 per cent of people supported a halt to all further immigration to the UK - one of the BNP's main pledges - when they were not told of the far-right group's association with the policy.
Among those who were told that it was a BNP commitment, support for the policy was only 48 per cent.
And 52 per cent of those who took part in the survey agreed that all immigrants should be denied the right to bring further members of their family into this country. But when told it was a BNP policy, support fell by 9 per cent.
Overall there was 55 per cent support for BNP policies until people were informed of the party's stance, when backing dropped to 49 per cent.
More than a third of people, 37 per cent, said they would seriously consider voting for the BNP's policies in an election. But identifying the BNP with the policies caused support to fall by 17 per cent.

I know that there are violent thugs and criminals in the BNP, but there are violent Labour and Conservative thugs too.

It is not illegal to hold any of the views that the BNP have, so why should people be witch-hunted for holding them. Hardline policies on things like immigration are currently being adopted by the Labour party. I got married when I was 19 and my (foreign) wife 20, and under new Labour government rules it would be illegal for her to come here until she was 21. Is that a BNP policy? No, it's a Labour one.

There is absolutely no reason why you shouldn't be in a party that says 'no to all immigration'. It's up to each individual. The BNP undoubtedly has members that actively hate other races, but then so does the Labour party. The 'BNP Ballerina' was married to a Cuban !!!!!!.

I don't know what the official BNP policy list is, but as far as I am aware there's nothing in it that says 'If you are a fireman you should let non-whites burn'.

So what exactly is supposed to be the problem?

I wish the intolerant scum that try to hound people out of their jobs because of their private opinions when they have never done anything that conflicts with it as a result of those opinions would clarify what the problem is.

StevieJ

meester wrote: »

There is absolutely no reason why you shouldn't be in a party that says 'no to all immigration'. It's up to each individual. The BNP undoubtedly has members that actively hate other races, but then so does the Labour party. The 'BNP Ballerina' was married to a Cuban !!!!!!.

I don't know but I would suggest to you that it probably wasn't a black one.