Olympus E-1 Digital SLR - £98.70 (Apple Education Store) [CLOSED]

Thirdfox

StudentOfLaw wrote:

Please include the following line in all replies OCS.
Tracking number: OT20060106_0000000149

Dear Mr xxxxxx,

The E-1 is discontinued but at the same time part of a new and already big system that continues to grow.

All the exosting parts and coming parts will be supported by the E-1.

The reason Olympus choose to make a totally new SLR camera system from zero was among many that the digital media in much greater extent needs the light to hit the sensor in right angle, unlike the analogue film media. Other reasons was to have a complete system made only for digital and with total communication, body-lens-flash, also all digital. This
includes firmware updates to body, lens and flash.

Please read more about the fantastic and unique Olympus Four Thirds-System
here:
http://www.olympus-pro.com/index.eu.en.html
http://www.wrotniak.net/photo/oly-e/index.html
http://www.fourthirdsfaq.com/
http://www.4-3system.com/
http://www.myfourthirds.com/

Kind regards Kalle Borch

The e-mail itself seems to have some (simple) grammatical/spelling mistakes. I have highlighted some interesting typos. I find it surprising that such a professional company would send an e-mail with so many clear mistakes.

POET_3

Thirdfox wrote:

The e-mail itself seems to have some (simple) grammatical/spelling mistakes. I have highlighted some interesting typos. I find it surprising that such a professional company would send an e-mail with so many clear mistakes.

....That'll be the irish way of spelling! lol

(no offence intended towards the irish)

deary65

StudentOfLaw wrote:

Hello all,

This is my first post, but I felt I needed to let you all in on a few home truths. I'm currently doing my LPC after getting a first in law, and whilst doing my LPC i'm employed by a local law firm, who specialise in contract law.

Being a student, I thought I would take liberty of this deal and order a camera at the 'special deal' price, but like many of you I found that it didn't arrive and they held my money back.

I discussed the case with the directors of my law firm and they said there may be a case but it would hinge on Olympus, not apple. As such we contacted Olympus who replied:

Please include the following line in all replies OCS.
Tracking number: OT20060106_0000000149

Dear Mr xxxxxx,

The E-1 is discontinued but at the same time part of a new and already big
system that continues to grow.

All the exosting parts and coming parts will be supported by the E-1.

The reason Olympus choose to make a totally new SLR camera system from
zero was among many that the digital media in much greater extent needs
the light to hit the sensor in right angle, unlike the analogue film
media. Other reasons was to have a complete system made only for digital
and with total communication, body-lens-flash, also all digital. This
includes firmware updates to body, lens and flash.

Please read more about the fantastic and unique Olympus Four Thirds-System
here:
http://www.olympus-pro.com/index.eu.en.html
http://www.wrotniak.net/photo/oly-e/index.html
http://www.fourthirdsfaq.com/
http://www.4-3system.com/
http://www.myfourthirds.com/

Kind regards Kalle Borch

As such Apple have not breached contract, and we'd have a very difficult time proving otherwise. Granted it may have been a pricing error, but in a court of law Apple would say that they were happy to complete all the transactions but the cameras are no longer produced by Olympus and us such we pulled out of the contract under section 2.6 of the terms and conditions.

As for customer service, The email cancelling the order was apologetic (good CS), the money is not held back by Apple but by financial institutions who have to process Apple's instructions, so to those who have not had a refund like I have, you need to pressure your bank. I've also advised Apple's Legal section on the email I received and asked them to disregard my previous correspondance as it may harm my future professional status.

I'm sorry everybody, but we have no leg to stand on, Apple are in the right!

Many thanks.

Does your post constitute legal advice,if so can you give the name of the law firm.thanks! In such a grey area of the law I have never known a solicitor to give an opinion, only counsel.

StudentOfLaw

Sorry for the lcak of belief about who and what I am. I was told about the deal by a friend who's dad had been alerted to it. I ordered a camera, as did my girlfriend and the friend who had told me. Unfortunatley there's very little that can be done when advertising a product that is out of stock. I can't qoute you cases without looking in depth, but its my understanding that a company can heavily advertise a product that they only have a limited number off in the hope that it will give them more business on other products. i.e. if i owned one camera I could dedicate a whole page of a newspaper to advertise the great deal for the camera, knowing I only had one, but when 1000 people turn up I sell that one camera and hope that some of the other people buy other full proced goods. Its savvy business.

My is that it was a mistake, but it is plausable that if it was being discontinued and Apple had a limited stock they decided that they would put it on there education store to try and make people aware it was there. I for one didn't know an education store existed before, and was dissapointed to see the i-pod video i'd bought two weeks previos was cheaper on the education store. If Apple only honoured one order then they would have abided by trading standards for advertising.

The contract in this case has nothing to do with changing of money, but is in fact made up of the Acknowledgement and the Terms and Conditions, of which Apple can revoke the deal on 2.6. All contracts have release clauses, and I think APple have been extremely clever with thiers.

Oh and sorry about my spelling. I'll happilly give free legal advise to anyone as its good practice, i'll even be unbiased and forget my (mis)conception that Apple are in the right, and assume that we've been treated wrongly.

Tojo_Ralph

Thirdfox wrote:

The e-mail itself seems to have some (simple) grammatical/spelling mistakes.

I wonder if your written German is any better than Kalle Borch's written English?

POET_3

StudentOflaw cannot give the name of ''100% genuine'' law firm, as it may have serious implications on his company....... lol

....yeah whatever!!!! :money:

POET_3

... I do have a hunch it may be called somthing like
''Applestore-wannabe-legalteam-and co.'' :grouphug:

StudentOfLaw

Oh and the email is from Olympus's head office in Germany - blame them for their spelling, you're welcome to email them yourselves on:
di.support@olympus-europa.com
And no I can't give my name or the practice I work for as I could be held to account for any qoutes that you take from my posts.
Thankyou :beer:

POET_3

... that is very suprising!!!

Comfortably_Numb

POET wrote:

Very strange that isnt it?

Concidering most people, if not all, found the deal through either MSE or the dvd forums(unless they happened to be looking on the apple/education/DSLR section of the site that particular day), our newly registered ''law student'' who also ''just happens'' to specialise in contract law also '' just happened'' to buy one.
Im not sure about this site, but i do know that dvd forums only allow limited access to view forums until registered with them - that meant the olympus DSLR thread was only available to registered members.

....Oh, and on his first post he happens to sympaphise with us all, but informs us that we havent got a leg to stand on!!! ...in which case, i imagine we should all go away and forget about the whole sorry business.
....;.........Yeah whatever!!!

Call me sceptical, but please dont call me stupid.......

Thats it, stick your head in the sand when someone disagrees, and come up with a conspiracy theory.

Do you really think Apple would bother trying to infiltrate this forum to try and put off 3 or 4 people?

You know the answer if you are convinced you have a case, take them to court.