Diskeeper 10 (Defragmentation software)

savemoney

The defrag MS use I believe or it was was diskeeper. It may be okay for some but it doesn't do everything one wants, sometime you need certain data arranged depending on access, date, type etc

DM is Depeche mode see avatar

Jake'sGran wrote: »

Didn't someone say that Vista does it's own defrag? As my new laptop when I get it will have Vista someone please say who is right! Also, I don't need anymore shoes
and who is DM?

Conor_3

Jake'sGran wrote: »

Didn't someone say that Vista does it's own defrag? As my new laptop when I get it will have Vista someone please say who is right! Also, I don't need anymore shoes
and who is DM?

Vista includes a defragmenter which is an extremely stripped out version of an old release of Diskeeper.

Third party defraggers improve on the built in one by placing files strategically on the hard drive based on usage to reduce both access time and reduce further fragmentation. For example, a file whose contents don't change which is accessed a lot, such as a system file or a program file, would be placed near the beginning of the disk for fast access. A file which is accessed less but whose contents change all the time, such as an Outlook/Express mailbox file, would be placed near the end to limit fragmentation as it is deleted and rewritten.

Old_Sherlock

Unless your on a large network, running virtual machines or creating huge image files ,the benefit of using 3rd party softwre will be negligible.

Defrag in vista is optimised and interacts with pre-fech the paging file and mft
to allocate data in clusters and pre determines this using it`s own dedicated
api.

As for NTFS getting very fragmented......well lets go back to FAT then.

Vista handles NTFS data storage fine.

The defrag in Vista is perfectly capable for the majority of users.

btw Im not saying it`s better than other defrag programs but
why add extra entries to your registry for little or no gain.

If you want more detail on a boring task run itfrom a command line.

Conor_3

loaner wrote: »

In the early 90's on a 10MB drive, you might notice a small difference. In the 00's, you might imagine one.

I'll still gladly stack up a decade and a half experience on hundreds of computers up against the piddling amount you've had and go with the defrag...

rancid-a

HI guys
Thanks for all your thoughts, most appreciated. I did visit the official Diskeeper site (over Amazon's all-over-the place listings) & a good job too. I noticed I'll need the Diskeeper 2008 Professional Edition because I'll be able to use it on 2 PCs ( one XP Home 32bit & a Vista 64bit Premium) I noticed the cheaper 'Home' version doesn't support 64 bit systems.

The reason I brought up The defragmentation issue is because I bought Total PC Gaming magazine this month, which came with a free book "Gamers Guide to Windows". One of the top ten things they recommended was using a third party defrag tool like Diskeeper.


Quick question is anything going to stop me from installing this on 2 computers. '1 workstation version'.

Anyway, Conor, & everyone, thanks for helping me out

Linbox

Personally I use JKDefag with a good GUI

A review of 8-best-defragmenters

HTH

Linbox

isofa

loaner wrote: »

In the early 90's on a 10MB drive, you might notice a small difference. In the 00's, you might imagine one.

In the very early 90s I had a 40Mb drive then 1993 a massive 340Mb which was massively effective by Windows fragmentation, by 1995 I have a 1Gb Mac, and then sizes rocketed from there, but always running defrag on a PC, or then then Norton on a Mac made a world of difference - and to some degree, on heavy systems it still does.

I have 4 main partitions on my main drive on the PC, which I'm using at the moment and overall it is roughly 75ish% full, I add, remove and change a vast number of files a day during development processes, temp files accumulate over the week, and I usually clear it all out the temp / junk once a week.

I also work on large designs and spreads Adobe CS software, so I may have a full colour A3 bleed in Photoshop with multiple layers, and the scratch disc commit on that could be many hundreds of megs.

I grant you I'm not a typical user.

Over the course of a month the system goes from being responsive to being sluggish, checking the fragmentation map shows a medium level of file fragmentation (some of the database back end files I work on are huge).

Obviously if you understand how an OS and HD works, you'll realise that in a very short period of time, any system will start to have fragmented files to some degree or other.

From my perspective, as an IT professional, the difference is clear before and after a defrag :rolleyes:

savemoney

well I find a defrag is a must, I also install and un-install and move/copy lots of data over the course of the week. I dfind O&Q defrag great for this it suits in taskbar and doesn't it without any interference from me

aytch

Can I ask, I use a mabook, should that need defragmenting as I have never seen software or done it?

savemoney

Do you mean macbook