NI Presbyterian mutual society, Short of funds for withdrawal?

fivealive_2

crazymess wrote: »

fully agree amontylado

We didn't know about the meeting until this morning -

Word is that John Dunlop is tabled to ask questions - think he was previous Moderator???????quote]

Yes John Dunlop is a former moderator. I have had email contact with him re the PMS and I have found him sympathetic with a realistic grasp of the issues.


I have unexpectedly acquired a list stretching to 7 A4 typed pages containing the name, constituency, and address and email address of almost all the N.I. MLA’s.
I have scanned it into my computer in PDF format so if anyone wants a copy you can email me or PM me.
:wave:

BelfastGran

I Emailed Each One About 6 Weeks Ago, And Got Replies From Many, Some Replied In Writing And Some Phoned Me.

fivealive_2

BelfastGran wrote: »

I Emailed Each One About 6 Weeks Ago, And Got Replies From Many, Some Replied In Writing And Some Phoned Me.

Well done you; we need to keep the pressure on.
:T :T :T

crazymess

What about a meeting for all of us that have been on this site for three and half months - also a few others if interested.

We could get some of the pro-active people to speak to us - I have a few names of people that have been doing a lot of work in the background.

We could all pay say £1 at the door and this would cover the venue costs!!!!

I think I know a centrally located venue - not too expensive - we might even get a cup of tea!!!

We could say have the Newsletter and maybe tv cameras just to bring to light our situation again!!!!


These are just suggestions - we don't want a bickering session just a constructive one.

Comments please

joylikes2shop

My experience at todays Treasury Select Committee at Stormont (please bear in mind I have the memory of a gold fish so hopefully this is all in the correct order without leaving out anything of major importance.)

I only knew about the meeting at Stormont today thanks to Bigcammy’s post this morning. I went along not sure what to expect, but probably hoping to meet and chat to some other PMS investors and possible some others from this thread.:D

There were approx 40 people at todays meeting They were there for a variety of different reasons – mainly to explain why they were not happy with their bank (I hope this is a fair synopsis of the non PMS information ):rolleyes:

The first person to raise the issue of the PMS outlined the situation and said he wanted to make a ‘simple plea’ to the government to throw the investors a ‘lifeline’. John McFall replied that the issue of the PMS had been brought to his attention by local politicians as well as having received letters from individuals.

The second person to raise the issue of the PMS referred to the help the government had given to in the past to the Icelandic Bank and Northern Rock (I THINK !!) He mentioned cases he was aware of where people were suffering because they had no access to their savings. A woman in a nursing home whose fees were paid for from money in the PMS- the family were now having to find the money from somewhere else to make these payments to the nursing home. He also mentioned knowing someone with their money in the PMS but who was now unable to pay the builder who was building their new home.

John Dunlop who introduced himself as a retired minister was the next person to raise the issue of the PMS. He described the situation as being ‘’an acute human problem’’ and mentioned twice that ‘’the PMS is associated with the church, but not accountable to the church’’

After these things were mentioned one of the committee guys (sorry…didn’t get his name) asked ‘’Why did this happen’’…he then went on to ask questions that were something along the lines of ….was it because they (PMS) opted out of the scheme, or because of bad lending or was it caused by the government guarantee scheme? At this point it was suggested that he should look into the situation more to familiarise himself with the situation instead of asking ‘us’ the questions (cant remember who said this…..possibly John Dunlop )

Father Tim Bartlett took the microphone to make raise his issue, but before he spoke about it he said ‘I’d like to offer my support to the PMS investors’, he also said people are looking for ‘’fairness and balance’’


AND THEN I TOOK THE MIC !!!

I felt that the more times the PMS was mentioned the better….

Firstly I mentioned the fact that it would appear some bank managers had approached PMS customers advising them that their money wasn’t ‘safe’ in the PMS and suggested they move their money,possible contributing to the panic rush of withdrawals.

Secondly I mentioned that this situation wasn’t one just affecting Presbyterians. I mentioned that there was a knock on effect, affecting non-Presbyterians as well eg builders weren’t able to be paid and nursing home fees would be difficult to pay because people had no access to their savings.

The third issue I raised was one of a support or help group for PMS investors. I explained that there was nothing in place and it was difficult for investors to get in touch with each other. I asked the committee if this was an area that they could help with. It was at this point that they agreed that ‘‘you should be able to set something up on line.’’ John McFall then went on to say that a support group serves many purposes. Not only for sharing information but also to offer some comfort or counselling to other members. He ended by saying ‘’If you want to get in contact with me or the committee we should be able to help you because we’ve been involved in the setting up of some other support groups in the past’’

When we were leaving the room John Dunlop waited for myself and the other PMS investors. He introduced himself and shook my hand (good handshake by the way) and then introduced me to Donald Watts. We then all left the room. I had a quick chat with the other two investors, and asked if they were familiar with this site. They weren’t, so I’ve given them all the details and hopefully we’ll have 2 new ‘lurkers’ joining the ranks.:wave:

crazymess

joylikestoshop

Thank you for going to the meeting at such late notice and the thorough minutes!!!!

Shorthand must be good!

Hopefully Mr McFaul will remember the famous PMS in his sleep!

fivealive_2

joylikes2shop wrote: »

My experience at todays Treasury Select Committee at Stormont (please bear in mind I have the memory of a gold fish so hopefully this is all in the correct order without leaving out anything of major importance.)

When we were leaving the room John Dunlop waited for myself and the other PMS investors. He introduced himself and shook my hand (good handshake by the way) and then introduced me to Donald Watts. We then all left the room. I had a quick chat with the other two investors, and asked if they were familiar with this site. They weren’t, so I’ve given them all the details and hopefully we’ll have 2 new ‘lurkers’ joining the ranks.:wave:

Well done, I think you have worked really hard on behalf of all of us. :grouphug:
I still can't believe that this "Public" meeting in Stormont was not better publicised.

Ballygal

E mail address of John Mc Fall is
[EMAIL="john.mcfall@blueyonder.co.uk"]john.mcfall@blueyonder.co.uk[/EMAIL]
if anyone else would like Mr Mc Fall to keep the PMS top of the agenda!

hilaryconn

Would this online forum be of any value to our cause? I found it tonight and felt that someone might be able to plead our case as we fulfill the criteria of having been affected by the credit crunch. Only open to registered members though!

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/business/business-news/minister-clicks-on-to-web-answer-session-14210144.html

It states;
'The site also enables them to share views and experiences about the effects of the recession and the credit crunch on Northern Ireland.
[EMAIL="rmorton@belfasttelegraph.co.uk"]rmorton@belfasttelegraph.co.uk[/EMAIL] '

and if Margaret Ritchie offers no joy then there might be another chance....

'The IoD said today a further three ministers were expected to take part in future online discussions.'

joylikes2shop

Hey.....I've just found this site.....

if you click on todays date opposite the radio ulster box you''ll be able to hear some of the chat from todays session at Stormont.:j (I've only listened to my bit -at around 10 mins -so not sure how much longer it goes on for...)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b007cpv5