Ken Clarke Britain is on brink of 'meltdown'

StevieJ

Conrad wrote: »

Milk and dairy based products feed cancers - according to a Doc on Radio 4. I avoid dairy products when I feel a cold comming on.

Chinese people say we give off an unpleasant milky smell, and according to the Doc non smoking related cancers are very low in China due to the absence of dairy in thier diet

Cheese - thats just a block of fat, cant get my head around cheese at all - I'm the odd one I know

I agree, but I think young kids need a high food fat in their diet.

lostinrates

DH had milk at UK state primary during his two or three years UK education and it was drummed into him that Thatcher stole it. With retrospect he thinks most people at his state primary with high ratings in NW3 could have afforded milk without Thatcher, and some could have afforded milk for the whole school with out her.

Incidently the 'home made' cake and biscuits given out continued after the milk. The cake was made in the school kitchns, but DH remembers some motherly mums sending in cake for the whole class. Many years later DH went for a visit and asked about the cake. School no longer provides cake or biscuits for break time and mums ar discouraged from sending things in (Health and Saftey).

I had milk but was at private. Loved milk, hated the cream on top, and HATED it when the weather was warm and the milk was all icky and warm from sitting outside.

NDG, yes, dairy sales in east ar dramatically up.

napoleon

luvpump wrote: »

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/recession/3446686/Ken-Clarke-warns-Britain-is-on-the-brink-of-meltdown.html

Kenneth Clarke, the former Conservative Chancellor, has warned the economy is on the brink of "meltdown" and unemployment could reach three million. 2009 will be a Bloodbath !

He's right. In five years' time Zimbabwe will be sending us financial aid and food parcels

napoleon

Conrad wrote: »

Ken Clarke has gone down in my estimation, since on Newsnight 3 or 4 weeks back he argued a 0.25% rate cut would be as far as he would go - what a muppet

When we have the inflation of a banana republic and a rescue by the IMF in a few years time he'll have been proved to be right.

StevieJ

neverdespairgirl wrote: »

Is it just me, or is that a bit random?

I thought sales of dairy in China were soaring, as they aspire to a Western diet / lifestyle.

Probably ciggies and alcohol as well.

neverdespairgirl

No, they've smoked like chimneys in China for years.

StevieJ

neverdespairgirl wrote: »

No, they've smoked like chimneys in China for years.

How come they live for ever?

sabretoothtigger

I think its western countries which have the highest average length of life. Just look at those guys from the first world war still going

They smoke unfiltered cigarettes in asia as well

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Conrad wrote: »

Ken Clarke has gone down in my estimation, since on Newsnight 3 or 4 weeks back he argued a 0.25% rate cut would be as far as he would go - what a muppet

Ahh but now the pound is tanking against all other currencies, which will in turn increase the cost of our imports (we import virtually everything, export next to nothing )we all know where that will end in a couple of years, inflation.

Oil will certainly go on the rise again, the downturn stopped the Peak Oil phenomenon becoming a reality, but only temporarily. We are burning 3 barrels for every 1 discovered. Peak dicovery was in 1960. Last summers oil price will return in the medium term, that is a fact.

Of course Browns' incompetancy has partly taken us down this road. I believe Clarke was a much better chancellor than Brown ever was.

Generali

Margret Thatcher Milk Snatcher as Education Secretary stopped milk to children over the age of 7(?) in the early 70s. Many councils refused to stop milk supplies to schools for several years. I had 1/3rd of a pint after break every day in Surrey (Tory council) until I was 8. It was frozen in winter and sour in the summer which I hated despite loving milk.

Oh, re 'peak oil'. A book was written about 'peak coal' in the 1860s I believe. The market system should prevent us from running out of things that are owned due to price mechanisms reflecting increased scarcity.