Residential Dog Training

abby1234519

Basically I've been having toilet training difficulties with my 8 month old JackR Molly.
She does learn quickly and she does so well at dog classes however she doesn't know not to toilet in peoples houses....even if front of me.
I'ts been a ahard two months, and I am doing it the way I've been told but its not improved. To the point where my partnet is getting frustrated and angry because he doesn't want a kitchen full of s**t to put it how he said.

So we've decided we'd rather send her to someone for a couple of weeks or a month who really can devote every single second to teaching her. I know that residential courses like this exist and I also know that our friends parents do this. I am going to ask them but does anyone know of anyone who does this in Yorkshire? Or what the best place to go is.

She has been crate trained by the vet but seems to disregard it!

mandy_moo_1

oh please don't send her away....not only will she think you don't want her anymore, but she'll end up worse than ever

i have 4 dogs ( an 8yr old collie X, and 3 yorkies, 3yrs, 18months, and 9 weeks) so i'm once again up to my eyes with toilet training pup

you need to basically go back to the beginning of training....does she mess in your house as well as other peoples? My 3 yr old yorkie will STILL have a little wee in somebody elses house, as she is marking her territory, but she doesn't mess at all in my house

as soon as you see her messing, DO NOT shout at her, or she'll only end up doing it somewhere secretive, like behind the sofa. Just TOTALLY ignore her....she'll know by your body language that you're not happy as you're cleaning it up, you don't need to say "BAD GIRL" or "NO" to her. The key is to not acknowledge her presence at all.

Then go back to the early training of putting her outside every time she wakes up, every time she's eaten, and every half hour whilst she's awake. Go outside with her, saying whatever it is you say to make her go toilet ( i say "have a wee wee") then as SOON as she goes (wait for her to finish tho!) be really over enthusiastic with the praise telling her what a good girl she is, and give her a treat

She'll soon start to realise that she gets no treat or attention when she messes in the house, but if she goes outside, she gets a nice biscuit or whatever, and lots of cuddles

She's still very young, and all young dogs/pups want to please their master, so she'll soon catch on!!

Good luck, and hang in there....it WILL get better,i promise

Oh, don't forget, don't clean any mess up with bleach or disinfectant.....a dog can still smell wee/poo under it!! Always use a biological washing powder/liquid that you've diluted, ready to clean up any mess ( in a spray bottle's fine)

MrsTinks

I'd second the no to residential courses... First of all you might find the pup learns not to mess THERE but the problem returns when she comes home... And it doesn't address the why she's doing it. Have you had your vet check that there isn't an underlying problem for why she is still doing it?

Also if she mainly/only messes at night then have you tried using a crate for her overnight? Dogs rarely mess where they sleep so by restricting the area to a crate at night this should help too and first thing when you wake up she goes outside - if she does her toilet then you praise her.

And second the biological washing powder mix for cleaning

Nomad25

I'd second the no to residential courses..

another plea - please don't send her on one of these.

There was some negative comment on these courses before on the forum from people who had paid good money with very iffy outcomes and the results are not guaranteed.

abby1234519

ah well the problem is that OH won't wait for her to learn.. she is learning, shes done it twice in a week which is better than everyday!!!

We do have friends who take dogs in with their other dog and then give them back. Sounds harsh but I don't know what to do:(

I KNOW I can continue teaching her but Graeme doesn't.

Nomad25

I stand by my original comment, BUT, if your OH is kicking off it's difficult. This guy [Roger Mugford] has a training centre in Chertsey, Surrey and has written a lot of animal behavioural books, here's a link to toilet training for puppies [although I'm sure you've probably tried these methods]:

http://www.companyofanimals.co.uk/housetraining.php

you can get more info by googling.

MrsTinks

The issue is that the pup might learn not to mess there - but she hasn't learnt not to mess in your house or your friends house. The more angry and fustrated your OH gets the slower the progress you make with her is going to be...

abby1234519

I just assumed it would mean she'd learn to mess outside rather than inside anywhere.

I just got home and as she was very excited to see me there was bound to be a little bit of pee, but she squatted and did the full thing :O

suki1964

How long was she left for?

The dog will learn not to toilet in its own bed first, then it learns not to use the house it lives in, then learns not any house - each environment has to be taught.

Seems you wont be seeing too much of your partner or if you are going to be seeing him with pup in two - you are going to have to pay more attention to pup then you have been.

Sorry I dont mean to sound harsh, its just you really have to be on top of this by not letting your pup fail

So its back to basics and taking pup out every hour or so (perhaps two) on lead until its done what needs to be done - huge praise and back in. Thats also being taken out after meals and after waking.

Yes its cold and wet out there but you need to get on top of this and by being there making sure she goes is the only why you know for sure shes been

How long is she being left on her own for?

MrsTinks

abby1234519 wrote: »

I just assumed it would mean she'd learn to mess outside rather than inside anywhere.

I just got home and as she was very excited to see me there was bound to be a little bit of pee, but she squatted and did the full thing :O

No unfortunately it won't mean that at all...

Suki has asked some very good questions

Out of interest she managed to hold the pee in whilst you were out and then pee'd when you actually got home?
I'd say that means she's able to hold on to it but for some reason when you or other people are aruond let's go.

Can I suggest that when you get home you ignore her. Don't speak to her, don't look at her, don't make any fuss! Instead let her straight out side the back (assuming you have a secure garden?) and see if she'll widdle. If she does then praise her like it's going out of fashion.

foreign_correspondent

oh dear, sunds tricky with the OH - is he likely to start asking you to rehome the dog? How patient do you think he will be?

How long is the dog being left alone for?

I agree with Mrs Tine about ignoring the dog when you get in, and let her out for a wee. If needs be take her straight outside, go with her, and praise her when she wes outdoors.