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flash11

cgk1 wrote: »

Interesting to see some newbies telling everyone how great it is - this thread must be impacting recruitment.

I don't even work for the company anymore so couldn't tell you about recruitment I doubt it has as you can see the first person moaned about 2 years ago.

ohdamnit

flash11 wrote: »

I don't even work for the company anymore so couldn't tell you about recruitment I doubt it has as you can see the first person moaned about 2 years ago.

A new forum member signs up and comments, twice, only on this company? Then writes a reasonably unintelligible post? Not at all strange...

MissSmithUK

Just thought I’d comment as I needed to prove to a friend that the 'interview' she was going to would be a waste of time and showed her the various blogs along with my own personal experience.

I was employed in one of these companies originally as one of their 'Dynamic Marketing Assistants' needless to say the position wasn't for me as will be explained below, then as an 'Administrator' when a position became available that was deemed more suitable.

My experience as an administrator is as follows....Be at the office 8am, Update each of the adverts placed on the recruitment websites making sure you're advert is the first advert people see in the morning when starting their job hunt, prepare the CVs that have come in from the previous evening, Call that days prospective candidates and confirm they will be attending the interview at allocated time, Call 2nd round candidates to confirm their appointments, call every number from every new cv and act like their cv is the best cv we have seen and persuade to come in for interview either that day or next day. Had to book between 50-60 people a day to allow for cancellations. When candidates arrive for interview pass out application forms, keep the chatter light so that they don't talk to anyone else; update adverts again (top of the pile). Be as vague as possible at all times. Send out second interview confirmations and prepare for final interviews for returning 2nd stage candidates on their return to the office. Day finished 6-7pm depending on if you'd reached the day’s target.

Needless to say I had some morals and left after a month :T. Would have been sooner but desperation and the need to pay bills was a must. Administrator position was paid position apart from the supposed commission for each candidate that walks through the door.

My experience as a Field agent....

Desperation makes people do the stupidest things.

Basically get to the 'office' at 8ish, prepare for your team meeting and daily training session known as ‘atmosphere’ :rotfl: where you learnt that KISS SEX and STD's were something else other than the obvious. Keep It Short and Simple blah blah blah, Fear of loss and running impacts will be familiar if you've been there. Running around a circle ringing a bell too. Atmosphere is where the brainwashing starts as you try to learn the management program (copying useless information off a whiteboard). This can take up to two hours per day. You then get your stock and go with your team leader who will have a 2nd round candidate with them to your given destination, anything from door to door, the annoying charity people in shopping centres or petrol stations to 'directly market' your clients product of which you receive a very small commission. Believe me...they don't have to pay too much for the product so their mark-up is quite high. You carry on for a few weeks because sheer determination to prove yourself wrong that you haven't been mugged off working 12+ hour shifts 6 days a week for pennies will eventually pay off. When you finally decide enough is enough ....you get promoted and get to build your own team (how exciting :eek:) they just got another couple of life sucking weeks out of you.

It goes like this, you start off as a distributer (mug), then a training manager (build your own team), Team/Crew Leader (supervising your team while they supervise their teams, Extra commission on below sales), Assistant Manager (as below with apparent basic wage and yet more commission) to owner eventually (your own office sucking the life out of desperate people never ever earning anywhere near the £75,000 promised). This evident by the fiat puntos that they drive.

Needless to say the administrator before me did a runner (I wish I’d taken a leaf out of her book) and that's how I ended up mugging people off for which I really really regret.:doh:

My advice, avoid these companies like the plague. They are soul destroying.

Massive127

yes i went there . There was 2 girls who had phoned me up . They were doing my head in with all their talking like listening to 2 excited girls that had just had their first orgasam. They were on the on the phone telling people the md had seen their cv's . Its direct selling knocking on doors trying to get people to sign up to giving money to charity. Sounds good for the charity but did you know what you give does not all go to the charity. Dont waste ya time students . IF YA WANT TO KNOCK ON DOORS join avon much more profitable. They said direct selling was on the advert on total jobs advert . That was false. The md looke like he just come out of universty

Massive127

If ya want to work for exlcesior marketing do your self a favour dont bother they will have you knocking on doors - which is just going to annoy the public

Harkys

Other companies to avoid in Edinburgh - JD Acquisitions and Smiths Marketing Associates - they are based within the same office - 106 Hanover St.
People may miss the facebook link further up but I found it very useful - marketing job scams

loulou201729

Another 2 groups that are part of cobra are ETM Marketing and Highland Group based in leeds on king street. They are based at the same office... when i 1st started there 3 yrs ago they were selling talk talk door to door which was great, was making a killing, then they switched to sky and they werent as nice when i wasn't making sales as it was my fault even though customers either a. didnt want it or b. they were happy with free view or virgin. Theymade me feel like i was being a negative influence. Even though only a coupleof weeks b4 i was a great salesperson with talk talk... thing is of course it gonna be easier with talktalk as u saving people money not making people spend it... of course this comes with sales but when they rip u off telling u ur gonna earn 50pound persale n you make 20sales a week.. work it out... kerching your thinking 1000 pound paycheck per week??? wrong try 100 pound as they bond ur earnings n u cant touch it for 3 months then when three months up, your sales have apparently been cancelled by client... yhyh funny that when u sold it to family n friends and you are sat in their house watching their sky u sold them. rip off merchants... they keep your money n u never get it

kevinissacs

milestoneinfo wrote: »

THIS IS A VERY LONG POST, SO PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO READ IT FULLY.

Hi guys. I am new to the forum, so I think this is probably the right forum for this, but feel free to move it if nececary.

I would like to give details of a major scam existing, with many many branches. I will be as detailed as I can. I worked for these people in the near past, and would like to aid others in avoiding this same scam.

How did this happen to me?

Well, in an effort to find a new job, I posted my CV online on a monday evening to Monster.co.uk. The following day, I was contacted by a company called T.H. Nationwide Limited, and was told that my CV was forwarded to them, and that they were very impressed with my CV. This seemed a little to quick, but I just expected that they were on a recruitment drive. They invited me to a one-on-one interview with their managing director, Tai Hussain, on the wednesday morning.

I went for the first round interview with these people, and was immediately impressed with their company. They claimed to have contracts with Disney, Warner Brothers, Universal Pictures and many other high-flying companies. They told me they had 28,000 offices world-wide.

They invited me to attend a second round interview with themselves, this was on the thursday. This would be to show me the ground-floor entry level of the business. I was placed out "in the field" with Lucas Wantega (surname may be spelt wrong). This proved to be an interesting day. I watched Lucas as he worked at the ground-level (door-to-door marketing for the british red cross).

I was then told to go back to the office for the third and final round interview. this was basically a formality, and was told I had got the job. The progression was explained to me fully again by Tai Hussain, after Lucas Wantega had broken it down for me over lunch during the day.

Here is the breakdown as it was explained to me:-

DISTRIBUTOR (4-6 weeks)

equivalent to national minimum wage for a 40 hour job.

responsibilities:

learn the marketing system we use. Reach a consistent level in the field. Have a good attitude to the business.

TEAM LEADER (3-9 months)

equivalent to £300-£500 per week

responsibilities:

learn how to train others. improve your own field work. take out 2nd round interviews. be able to teach others the marketing system

ASSISTANT MANAGER (12 MONTHS)

£35,000 per annum.

responsibilities:

as above, but also take 1st round interviews. learn legal paper-work. manage own campaign under advice from MD

MANAGING DIRECTOR (12 MONTHS)

£50,000 per anum

responsibilities:

to own and run own office, based in another town. supported by the company director (Tai Hussain)



as you can tell from that, I was told that this was a 3 year plan, and that I was guaranteed managing director position in three years. This sounded superb, and I took the position.

I was ripped of by this company. It was not made clear to me when I started that this was comission only. I earned within the five weeks i was in this company (and I was promoted 3 days in!) the grand total £120. I am expecting to recieve a further £45 total. So for five weeks working for this company, I expect to recieve £165 total.

Hi,
I had also got these type of mails.
I thought these were real requirements, but through your post , I came to know that these are totally fake.
Thanks for sharing

MossyMUFC

I worked at PARKER WORLDWIDE for six weeks last year. I did my three interviews, including the day of o, and was fed all the bullc##p about quick risers and management in six months e.t.c and I fell for it. I kept telling myself "the first few months are the hardest, but then you get the rewards" as was fed to me by the guy I thought was a friend but clearly just a lapdog / messenger. I was initially told I would get £30 per sale, then I was informed it would be £20 plus bonus' if I could sell add ons to the TalkTalk packages. In reality, after no pay for six weeks, I confronted my manager and he told me I would be getting £17.50 no matter which add ons i sold. So I promptly told him I would be leaving, but demanded my earnings first, after much arguing and denial on his part ( trying to wave me off saying I would get my pay over the next 6 weeks ) I forced him to call the payments people. Turns out my "wages" had been paid into my team leaders bank account!

Rightly, I was furious, started threatening them with police action, but he relented and I got my wages in full (Over the next 6 weeks of course - and at £17.50 a sell)

AVOID

( also - why have they had to move offices recently? They used to be at Saxon Gate near the Bargates rear entrance, but now they're in a tiny upstairs office where CEX Computers used to be...... hmmm)

Mr_Oink

You have to be careful mentioning Parker Worldwide here because TalkTalk, in my opinion, have Martin Lewis in their pocket.